LL-L "Language varieties" 2004.10.14 (04) [E]

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From: heather rendall <HeatherRendall at compuserve.com>
Subject: LL-L "Language varieties" 2004.10.13 (01) [E]

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When you say you know a little Saxon, am I right assuming you mean Old
English/Anglo-Saxon or the predominantly Saxon dialects thereof?<

Actually no! I am in the process of wading through an Introduction to
Anglo-Saxon, as well as Campbell's Old English Grammar.

I studied German at London University and did 2 semesters at Göttingen. I
was fortunate in both places to have excellent and interesting professors
of Language, so was introduced to Old HIgh German and Saxon  ( via Heliand)
as well as the History of the Indo-European languages. I also had a friend
who lived up in the Lünerberg Heath and so came into contact with
Plattdeutsch there.

If I give you an example of the kind of point I am querying, it may make it
easier to answer!

We were given a sheet of local place names and their derivations: some had
Celtic origins  e.g. eccles  <<< eglwys = church   so a local 'ecclesbrok'
= Church Brook and probably indicates a Celtic Christain church.

He listed wasse = Saxon = water.       And I cannot see how that can be.
Surely it would be 'watar/ water'?

In addition we have 'was' as an common part of place names locally e.g.
Broadwas.
I have read that this derived from Saxon for 'mud'
Is this true? Possible?

Heather

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Language varieties

Thanks for clarifying that, Heather, and good to know you are interested in
the ancestral language of my neck of the woods.

> He listed wasse = Saxon = water.       And I cannot see how that can be.
> Surely it would be 'watar/ water'?
>
> In addition we have 'was' as an common part of place names locally e.g.
> Broadwas.
> I have read that this derived from Saxon for 'mud'
> Is this true? Possible?

Anyone who wishes to respond to this, please do so under "Etymology" or
"Names" (whichever seems appropriate), since we need to keep subjects apart
here.

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron

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