LL-L "Phonology" 2005.02.05 (01) [E]

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From:  Henry Pijffers <henry.pijffers at saxnot.com>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2005.01.29 (04) [A/E/LS/German]

From: Kenneth Rohde Christiansen <kenneth at gnu.org>
Subject: LL-L "Phonology" 2005.02.02 (03) [E]
>
> Well, I would say that they are indeed long. There is also a phonemic
> difference between the words 'tal' and 'taal'. And in words like water
> you don't have a nasal nor a liquid.
>
> It is the exactly same with e. In Gronings (and in Standard Dutch) we
> have ee [e:] en [E:] (and in Dutch [EI] as well, like in weet).  The
> [E:] occours where the E used to be short! Thus in words like 'vergeten'
> (compare with German, vergissen), 'eten' (essen), 'beter' (besser, Eng.
> better). In some dialects like for instance Twents this is so apparent
> that they actually write it as 'ae' or 'ea'. But pronouncing these words
> with [e:] in Dutch would sound wrong in my ears, or maybe Belgian :)
>
That's cause in Twents, where we write ae it's [{], not [E:], as in
aetten (to eat), baetter (better), vergaetten (to forget). Where we
write ea it's [E:], as in bear (bear), Eanske (Enschede), Tweante
(Twente), etc.

Henry

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