LL-L "Phonology" 2005.06.26 (01) [E]

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From: David Barrow <davidab at telefonica.net.pe>
Subject: LL-L "Phonology" 2005.06.25 (06) [E]

> From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Phonology
>
> Ben Bloomgren:
>
>> How do you know if you have a rhotic variety or not?
>
> Jim Krause:
>
>> What does the term rhotic
>> accent refer to?  And what part or parts of the US typify this accent?
>> The reason I ask, is because I'm fairly certain that I pronounce the r
>> in surprise.  And I know I pronounce the first r in February.  I gew up
>> in the state of Oregon, on the US west coast and now reside in Kansas
>> right in the center of the country.  And I think I have heard both in
>> both places.
>
> Simply put, "rhotic" language varieties are those in which all "r"s at
> the ends of syllables "are sounded."  Examples of these are most
> American, Canadian and Irish English varieties.
>
> "Non-rhotic" varieties are those that "drop the 'r'."  (In reality,
> they change an "r" at the end of a syllable into a vowel.) ....

Either that or the vowel before the 'r' lengthens

bear = [bE:]/[be:] as well as  [be@]/[bE@]

David Barrow

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From: Peter Snepvangers <snepvangers at optushome.com.au>
Subject: Phonology


Let's see ... Australians, am I getting the following right?
Monday: Mundee ['mandi:]
Tuesday: Choozdee ['tSu:zdi:]
Wednesday: Wenzdee ['wEnzdi:]
Thursday: Thu(r)zdee ['θø:zdi:]
Friday: Fridee ['frAIdi:]
Saturday: Satdee ['sætdi:]
Sunday: Sundee ['sandi:]
But "day" is not pronounced "dee" in other contexts; it's pronounced close
to "die" [dA%I], hence also "holiday" ['hOlidA%I].  "Day" in the days of the
week can have this pronunciation too in some dialects and when stressed or
enunciated "well."
Regards,
Reinhard/Ron
Hello Ron,
YEP, that does sound like an Aussie pronunciation, although some folk seem 
to make an exception for the Saturday and Sunday. For some weird reason they 
revert to day instead of dee. I sometimes think it is an subconscious way of 
redefining the "working" days from the "my personal time" days. When I have 
asked people why they do that pronunciation change they do not seem to be 
aware they have done it.
Cheers
Peter Snepvangers
snepvangers at optushome.com.au

Silence is not always golden... sometimes it is yellow.


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From: heather rendall <HeatherRendall at compuserve.com>
Subject: LL-L "Phonology" 2005.06.25 (02) [E/F]

Message text written by INTERNET:lowlands-l at LOWLANDS-L.NET
>Let's not forget that in Middle English and in some dialects still in
Early
Modern English the pronunciation of <ay> was still [aI] (as in "die"), and
some dialects have retained it.  At least so I believe.
<
Try Black Country!

Ter die  oim gooin ter  toon   = today I'm going to town      in and around
Birmingham

And also Northern Ireland where the vowels very often take a Higher note  (
Sorry - no training in phonetics , so I can't script the sound for you)

Heather

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