LL-L "Phonology" 2005.06.30 (03) [E]
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From: "David Barrow" <davidab at telefonica.net.pe>
Subject: LL-L "Phonology" 2005.06.29 (03) [E]
>> From: David Barrow <davidab at telefonica.net.pe>
>> Subject: LL-L "Phonology" 2005.06.28 (12) [E]
>>
>>> From: Ingmar Roerdinkholder <ingmar.roerdinkholder at WORLDONLINE.NL>
>>> Subject: LL-L "Anniversary" 2005.06.28 (07) [E]
>>>
>>> I don't know why it doesn't show at the screen, but I'm sure I wrote:
>>>
>>> tijdje ["tE.ic@], ouders ["a.ud at rs], and thuis [tö.ys], but
>>> the second elements of the SAMPA-diphthongs seem to have lost
>>>
>>> Ingmar
>>>
>> Ingmar,
>>
>> In SAMPA the . (dot, period) is a syllable break marker. I would read
>> the above as separate syllables not as diphthongs.
>>
>> tijdje ["tEic@], ouders ["aud at rs], and thuis [töys]
>>
>> David Barrow
>>
>> ----------
>>
>> From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Phonology
>>
>> Hi, Ben!
>>
>> I don't know if this helps, but I can tell you that Old (High) German,
>> too, has /kwam/ <quam> for 'came' (e.g., _AKK sahun thi mithont quamun
>> gahun_ 'Those that came at once beheld the great misery'). The same
>> applies to Old Saxon (e.g., _ Allsô hê umbi thia eggia quam, was that
the
>> leo, the thar hliop_ 'When he came around the corner, it turned out to be
>> the lion that was walking there'). Modern German has _kam-_, and Modern
>> North Saxon has _keym-_.
>>
>> David (above):
>>
>>> In SAMPA the . (dot, period) is a syllable break marker. I would read
>>> the above as separate syllables not as diphthongs.
>>
>>
>> David, I'm afraid I have to defend our Ingmar here (Darn!) and plead
>> guilty to having led him from the path of the righteous. I use(d to use)
>> the dot instead of % for half-length, and I wore poor Ingmar down, him
>> who started off with %. I promise to mend my ways.
>>
>> Cheers!
>> Reinhard/Ron
>>
> No wonder he's confused :-)
>
> Long :
> Half long :\
> Secondary stress %
>
> tijdje ["tE:\ic@], ouders ["a:\ud at rs], and thuis [tö:\ys]
>
> David Barrow
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