LL-L "Etymology" 2005.05.16 (02) [E]

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From: Kevin Caldwell <kcaldwell31 at comcast.net>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2005.05.15 (05) [E/Yiddish]

> From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Delectables
>
> Other commonly known Yiddish loans in America English:
>
> bagel <  בײגל beygl
>  hard ring-shaped bread roll made by boiling then baking the dough

... etc.

You could add words like schlemiel (dolt, oaf, bungler), schnook (stupid
person, dupe), schmoe (stupid person, jerk; can be used as a generic last
name, as in Joe Schmoe = John Doe, John Q. Public), and tuckus (however it's
spelled; meaning 'buttocks').  I prefer the spellings with the 'c' between
the 's' and the 'h', but these days most people seem to be dropping it.

>shpeel, spiel <  שפּיל shpil 'play' (cf. German _Spiel_) lengthy talk, to-do

A spiel can also be a sales pitch.

Kevin Caldwell

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From: Elsie Zinsser <ezinsser at icon.co.za>
Subject: LL-L Etymology

Hi all,

Mark wrote:

"Corf, BTW, is used in Afrikaans for a bee-hive, the manufactured kind.
This is a borrowing from when we made beehives out of basketwork,
crushed rush, actually."

But the spelling in Afrikaans, of course, is bye'korf'; rather than "corf",
y'all.

Groete,
Elsie Zinsser

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From: Paul Finlow-Bates <wolf_thunder51 at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2005.05.15 (08) [E]

I'd never associated "fossick" with "versoek" before, though it seems pretty
clear now you mention it!  Thanks for that.

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From: Luc Hellinckx <luc.hellinckx at pandora.be>
Subject: Etymology

Beste Criostóir,

Quite intriguing what you wrote about the Eastern Midlands. English 'our',
being pronounced like _us_, would certainly refer to a coastal variety of
Dutch, if ever there was Dutch influence. Nowadays, West Flemish still has
_oes_/_uus_ instead of standard Dutch _ons_ (= _our_ (E)). Denasalization
also happened in _goeze_ (West Flemish), _goose_ (E), _gans_ (D). But surely
Frisian and Low Saxon may also have had, or still have this feature.

Greetings,

Luc Hellinckx

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