LL-L "Etymology" 2005.10.09 (03) [E/F]

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   L O W L A N D S - L * 09 October 2005 * Volume 03
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From: Dan Prohaska <danielprohaska at bluewin.ch>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" [E]

David,
You gave PGmc *blaikos for "white". I assume you are giving the masculine
singular nominative of the strong declination. This PGmc ending is generally
reconstructed *-az which is the equivalent ending of Latin <-us> and Greek
<-os>. The word "colourless" ought to be reconstructed as PGmc *blaikaz.
Dan

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From: David Barrow <davidab at telefonica.net.pe>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology"2005.10.02 (04) [E/German]

"bleach
    O.E. blæcan, from P.Gmc. *blaikos "white," from PIE *bhleg- "to gleam,"
root of blanche, blank, bleak and probably black. The connection seems to be
"burning, blazing, shining, whiteness." That the same root yielded words for
"black" and "white" is probably because both are colorless, and perhaps
because both are associated with burning."

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From: Henno Brandsma <hennobrandsma at hetnet.nl>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2005.10.08 (03) [D/E]


  From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
  Subject: Etymology


  Ha, die Floor!  Long time no hear!


    De algemene naam voor "candy" in het Nederlands is "snoep".
  In "Oostersch" Low Saxon it tends to be _snabbel-kraam_ (<Snabbelkraam>, 
German _Süßigkeit(en)_) -- so it's "_snabbel_-stuff."  In some dialects you 
also get _snubbel-kraam_ (<Snubbelkraam>) and the verb _snubbeln_, probably 
a case of labial assimilation.  (My wife has adopted "to schnubbel" [SnUb=l] 
for "to eat" as a part of our English-based home lingo.)  I suspect that 
these words are derived from or inspired by German _schnabulieren_ 'to enjoy 
(food)', a jocularly invented "foreign" word based on _Schnabel_ 'beak' 
(related to MidSax _sneb_ > ModLS_snep_ ~ _snip_, German _Schnepfe_ and 
English _snipe_, to Dutch _nep_ and English "nib" 'point', 'beak' (without 
the prefix _s-_), and also to LS _snappen_, German _Schnappen_, English 
"snap," also "snippy," "nab," "nip," etc.).  So I assume that Dutch _snoep_ 
(labial assimilation /i/ -> /u/) is related to this group of words.
En it Westerlauwer Frysk hat "snobbersguod" foar Nederlânsk "snoep". en it 
tiidwurd derby is "snobje".
Ik soe "snâle" sizze foar N. 'snavel', mar ik leau dat oare wurden ek wol 
brûkt wurde.


Mei freonlike groetnis,


Henno


[knip]

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From: Roger Hondshoven <roger.hondshoven at pandora.be>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2005.10.08 (03) [D/E]

Hullo everybody,

I stumbled upon the following series in your posting.

"Schnabel_ 'beak' > (related to MidSax _sneb_ > ModLS_snep_ ~ _snip_, German
_Schnepfe_ and
> English _snipe_, to Dutch _nep_ and English "nib" 'point', 'beak' (without
> the prefix _s-_)"
The Dutch word that was meant here is 'neb' (a.o. "beak of a bird") . As far
as I know it is not related to 'nep' ("namaak, bedrog, waardeloos ding"),
which is said to be derived from German Nepp.

Best regards,

Roger Hondshoven

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From: Jacqueline Bungenberg de Jong <Dutchmatters at comcast.net>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2005.10.08 (05) [D/E]

To Ron: Re "kusken" in de pap
Thank you for your poetic explanation.
Het gedicht is vertederend. Jacqueline

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From: heather rendall <HeatherRendall at compuserve.com>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2005.10.08 (03) [D/E]

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:-)))))))))

Heather

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> stairs were the 'golly-golly-gar' - we think because of
> the effort of climbing them and the exhalation of relief once at the top!

I love that one!  I vote for "mainstreaming" it.

And then we could lead future etymologists off the track by spreading the
rumor that it originated in Gamilaraay (an Australian language of Northern
New South Wales and Southern Queensland), derived from _galiy-galiy gaa_
'(European-style) stairs', based on _galiyaa-y_ 'to climb' and _gaa-gi_ 'to
carry/bring (from afar)'.   (These are real Gamilaraay words! "How clever is
that?" he says full of himself.  ;-) )

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron 

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