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   L O W L A N D S - L * 11 October 2005 * Volume 04
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From: Ingmar Roerdinkholder <ingmar.roerdinkholder at WORLDONLINE.NL>
Subject: LL-L "History" 2005.10.11 (03) [E]

The Island of Tanith? Where might that be, I've never heard of it before.
Ingmar

Jonny:
>I've heard about this rumor, too, but never found any documentation
proving
>it.
>What I heard perhaps being closer to the truth is a a good, enduring
>connection between North Frisians and coastal British people on the other
>side of the North Sea. But this could be a result of both populations
being
>seafarers and whale-hunters.
>
>But- _Tanith_ sounds interesting. Is it an old Roman name ending '-itus',
>from Lat.: 'ire', or something else, perhaps Celtic??
>I just slightly remember that the Vikings had occupied Tanith for a while
in
>the times before 1066; but the name should be older and doesn't sound
>Norse-like.

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From: jonny <jonny.meibohm at arcor.de>
Subject: LL-L "History" 2005.10.10 (01) [E]

Or is it (_Tanith_) 'Danish' at the end and got it's name from the invaders?

Johannes "Jonny" Meibohm

> Betreff: AW: LL-L "History" 2005.10.10 (01) [E]
>
> Hi, Tom,
>
> you wrote:
>
> > The book convincingly documented that a huge reverse
> > migration took place after he Britons nearly expelled the Saxons,
> > confining
> > them to the island of Tanith.  These people recolonized Holstein and
> other
> > Saxon areas....
> I've heard about this rumor, too, but never found any documentation
> proving it.
> What I heard perhaps being closer to the truth is a a good, enduring
> connection between North Frisians and coastal British people on the other
> side of the North Sea. But this could be a result of both populations
> being seafarers and whale-hunters.
>
> But- _Tanith_ sounds interesting. Is it an old Roman name ending '-itus',
> from Lat.: 'ire', or something else, perhaps Celtic??
> I just slightly remember that the Vikings had occupied Tanith for a while
> in the times before 1066; but the name should be older and doesn't sound
> Norse-like.
>
> Greutens/Regards
>
> Johannes "Jonny" Meibohm

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: History

Aren't we talking about the Isle of Taneth (with an "e") here?  It's at the 
eastern tip of Kent (Roman "Cantium"), separated from the mainland by the 
Whatsum Channel, which has been silted in in more recent times.  In Roman 
times, the island lay a good mile offshore, and its name was "Tanatus 
insula" then.  The main town is Margate, Broadstairs and Ramsgate coming 
next.  The usual way of reaching the "island" is via Canterbury, pretty much 
the same route that existed in Roman times.  There are loads of Roman relics 
on Taneth.  In Saxon times it tended to be called "Tenet."

I suspect the name to be British (Brythonic Celtic), and I wonder if it is 
based on a root meaning 'thin', 'stretched-out', also 'nearby'; cf. Old 
Irish _tana_, Cornish _tanow_, Breton _tanaw_, Welsh _teneu_ (< *_tanavo_), 
also Old Irish _tend_ (> _teann_) 'tight', 'close', 'nearby', Welsh _tyn_ 
'tight', 'stretched',  which are related to English "thin," German _dünn_, 
etc., also to Latin _tenuis_ 'thin', _tendo_ 'stretch' and _tentus_ 
'stretched' (also "tense," "tension" etc.), also Sanskrit तनु _tanu_ 'thin', 
'slender'.

That's a lovely area of Southern England, and an interesting one as well. 
St. Augustine is supposed to have landed on the Island in 596 and then 
embarked on his mission.  And lots of other things happened there since.

I had never heard of Taneth having served to confine Saxons.  That's an 
interesting bit of information.  Are there any details to be had?

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron 

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