LL-L "Phonology" 2006.01.13 (06) [E]

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13 January 2006 * Volume 06
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From: Paul Finlow-Bates <wolf_thunder51 at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: LL-L "Phonology" 2006.01.12 (04) [E]
  From: Ben J. Bloomgren
  Subject: LL-L "Phonology" 2006.01.11 (01) [E]

  "fox VS. Vixen"

  Paul and all,
  Could it be that some varieties had an umlauted u like Dutch fux for fox?
  This may explain the i sound in vixen.
  Ben

Ben,
I assume it's the same as German -fuechsin-

Paul

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From: Paul Finlow-Bates <wolf_thunder51 at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: LL-L "Phonology" 2006.01.13 (02) [E]


  From: Paul Tatum
  Subject: LL-L "Phonology" 2006.01.12 (01) [E]

  Paul Finlow-Bates wrote:
  > Many southwestern English people habitually voice all consonants, it's a
  > common identifier of the region. For example the county of Somerset is
  > commonly pronounced "Zummerzet" by its inhabitants.
  Hello t'other Paul,
  Yes, you're quite right, of course, I forgot that (nearly) all s's (and
  f's) get voiced. Does the voicing affect /T/ > /D/? I've never seen this
  mentioned (because they're not distinguished orthographically? or
  because it doesn't happen?)

  Paul Tatum
Paul,
Southwesterners don't usually voice T or P into D or B, at least initially 
(-time- would be "toim" not "doim"). In medial positions T will either 
remain unvoiced, or sometimes become a glottal st! op. P is pretty much as 
standard.

Paul (the other one).  It'll get confusing if a third joins in. 

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