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09 March 2006 * Volume 03
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From: Theo Homan <theohoman at yahoo.com>
Subject: LL-L "Phonology" 2006.03.08 (04) [E]

> From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Phonology
>
> Ingmar, folks,
>
> In Faeroese and Icelandic, written <hv> is
> pronounced [kv].
[...]
> Regards,
> Reinhard/Ron

Hi,

Better: ...Icelandic, written <hv> can ALSO be
pronounced [kv].

vr.gr.
Theo Homan

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From: Paul Finlow-Bates <wolf_thunder51 at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: LL-L "Phonology" 2006.03.08 (04) [E]


  From: R. F. Hahn
  Subject: Phonology

  Ingmar, folks,

  In Faeroese and Icelandic, written is pronounced [kv].

  ...as in Scots and Maori (wh)......
As a kid in 1960's New Zealand we were never taught much Maori, though some 
teachers with a personal interest (not necessarily Maori themselves) taught 
a bit. We were told that the "wh" was actually closer to "f" in the north, 
changing to a "wh" the further south you went.  So the northern town of 
Whangarei is pronounced something like (in a standard Scottish accent) 
Fanga-ray.

Paul

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Phonology

Hey, Paul!

Just a moment!  Did I write Maori <wh> was pronounced [kv]?!  Nah!  The 
archive says this:

> I assume <hv> was pronounced [hv] or [xv] in Old Norse.  Some say it was
> pronounced [W] (the voiceless equivalent of [w], as in Scots and Maori
> <wh>).

> If it was pronounced [W], I would expect it to have developed into
> <f>, as happened in many northern dialects of Scots.

Cheerio!
Reinhard/Ron 

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