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10 March 2006 * Volume 02
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From: Ben J. Bloomgren <Ben.Bloomgren at asu.edu>
Subject: LL-L "Phonology" 2006.03.09 (03) [E]

I assume <hv> was pronounced [hv] or [xv] in Old Norse.

Ron, HV sounds like some sort of intermediary between /v/ and /f/. Is it 
just too difficult to pronounce /kv/ as /kv/?
Ben

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From: David Barrow <davidab at telefonica.net.pe>
Subject: LL-L "Phonology" 2006.03.09 (09) [E]
 
> From: ANNETTE GIESBRECHT <beautyaround at email.com>
> Subject: LL-L "Phonology" 2006.03.06 (10) [E]
>
> Reverse snob? Being able to distinguish wh from w has its advantages.  It
> makes it easier to distinguish were from where in sentences.  The Wh is
> something like this W(done with a breathy exhalation sound -not a loud 
> one,
> but soft ) If your native language has the h as silent, you you may 
> find it
> hard to do, and makes it hard to explain. .   I won't get into in what 
> area
> of Canada it is common -certainly not in the Prairies, but possibly in
> British Columbia especially Victoria which has a large (or had) a large
> British Population.  I haven't lived in Ontario and the friends I know 
> who
> did, are either Dutch immigrants or the children of such.
>
> Annette
>
Annette,

The 'ere's of 'were' and 'where' are pronounced differently regardless 
of how 'wh' is pronounced. The comparison would have to be between 
'wear' and 'where'

David Barrow

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From: Karl Schulte <kschulte01 at alamosapcs.com>
Subject: LL-L "Phonology" 2006.03.09 (09) [E]
 
Concerning "distinguish were from where in sentences", they don't sound
anything alike; I suppose you mean in written language?
Karl Schulte

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From: Ingmar Roerdinkholder <ingmar.roerdinkholder at WORLDONLINE.NL>
Subject: LL-L "Phonology" 2006.03.09 (09) [E]

I think 'where' and 'were' are distinguished already by their vowel:
"wair" versus "wur", so no one would mix the two up when wh and w are 
pronounced the same here.  

Ingmar
>
>ANNETTE GIESBRECHT 
>
>Reverse snob? Being able to distinguish wh from w has its advantages.  It
>makes it easier to distinguish were from where in sentences.  The Wh is
>something like this W(done with a breathy exhalation sound -not a loud 
one,
>but soft ) If your native language has the h as silent, you you may find 
it
>hard to do, and makes it hard to explain. .   I won't get into in what 
area
>of Canada it is common -certainly not in the Prairies, but possibly in
>British Columbia especially Victoria which has a large (or had) a large
>British Population.  I haven't lived in Ontario and the friends I know who
>did, are either Dutch immigrants or the children of such.

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