LL-L "Language varieties" 2006.05.26 (01) [E]

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L O W L A N D S - L * 26 May 2006 * Volume 02
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From: "Theo Homan" <theohoman at yahoo.com>
Subject: LL-L "Language varieties" 2006.05.25 (05) [E]

> From: "Heather Rendall"
> <HeatherRendall at compuserve.com>
> Subject: LL-L "Language varieties" 2006.05.25 (01)
> [E]
>
> Theo Homan< writes:> And (common and normal) in
> (modern) Icelandic.
>
> Theo
> Can you send some examples?
> And a brief description/history of Icelandic ????
>
> Is it a Danish base?  Old Scandanavian? Do any of
> these also use VSO?
>
> Heather

Hi,

These understandable questions are going far beyond my
limits.

But it is something that is not continental
Scandinavian.
But it is Old Norse.

Although Icelanders always emphasize the isolated
development of Icelandic during the last 1100 years, I
never get tired to point on the relatively massive
influence of Danish AND Platt [fishermen -also of the
dutch- and trading] during a lot of centuries. [e.g.
medieval ballads taken over from Platt].

Ex.: Sendi hann bokina en fekk hann ekki neitt. [he
send the book and he didn't get anything.] is the same
as: hann sendi bokina en hann fekk ekki neitt.

This is both spoken as written language.
Icelanders do not agree whether there is a difference
in meaning [between 'sendi hann' and 'hann sendi'].
But a lot of them will say that 'sendi hann' gives a
bit more of extra weight.

vr.gr.
Theo Homan

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Language varieties

Heather,

Perhaps the following (with my annotation] is of some use.

None of the relevant phrases would sound strange translated into German
and Low Saxon, or Old English, for that matter.

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron

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Excerpts from the Icelandic prose poem _Alheimsvíðáttan_ (The Vastness
of the Universe) by Jónas Hallgrímsson [1807–1845] (with translations
by Dick Ringler)

   <...>

   flýg eg á vinda ["fly I on the wind"]
   vængjum yfir
   háar leiðir
   himinljósa.

   I soar on wings
   swifter than wind
   above the paths
   of the pulsing stars.

   <...>

   Sá eg í ungum ["Saw I in the young"]
   æskublóma
   stjörnur úr himin-
   straumum rísa,
   þúsund alda
   að þreyta skeið
   heiðfagran gegnum
   himinbláma.

   I watched the stars
   in the womb of youth
   rise from the still
   streams of heaven,
   eager to make
   their million year
   race through the thin
   ethereal blue.

   Sá eg þær blika ["Saw I their flickering"]
   á baki mér,
   er eg til heima ["am I to worlds"]
   hafnar þreytti;
   ókyrrt auga
   sást allt um kring;
   stóð eg þá í geimi ["steer I there in the space"]
   stjörnulausum.

   Later they flickered
   faintly behind me
   as I rushed on
   to the rim of worlds.
   I peered with anxious
   eyes about me:
   now I was steering
   through starless voids.

   <...>

   Kemur þá óðfluga ["Comes there flying"]
   um auðan veg
   mér í móti

   Suddenly, something
   comes swiftly toward me
   through empty night ---

   <...>

   flug vil eg þreyta ["flight will I take"]
   á fjarlæga strönd,

   My flight is destined
   to those distant shores,

<...>

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