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From: Paul Finlow-Bates <wolf_thunder51 at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2007.04.01 (01) [E]

From: Sandy Fleming  <sandy at scotstext.org>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2007.03.31 (02) [E]

Was there a tribe called the Wicca?

Sandy Fleming
http://scotstext.org/

Hwicce actually, but near enough (they couldn't write anyway, so "correct
spelling" is a bit academic).  Part of the Mercia area, toward the Welsh
Border if I recall correctly (don't have refs. immediately to hand).

Paul Finlow-Bates

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From: Marcel Bas <roepstem at hotmail.com>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2007.04.01 (01) [E]

Hi everyone!

Isn't it great to see people get excited about an etymon such as **pol- *and
relatives?

All these words - *flat, plane, field, fold,* phalakṙṣṭa - share the Proto
Indo-European root **pele-* which means 'falt, to spread'.

The Sanskrit word prthú-  'broad' and the Greek word platús 'broad' both
seem to stem from an extended Indo European root **pltH2u- *(*H2* symbolises
the second laryngeal which is believed to have lead to _a_ in IE languages,
but here in Sanskrit it lead to _i_ if you look at the feminine form *
prthiví*)).

And there was also the Greek place-name *Plataiaí *(fem. pl.) of **platauia
*< **pltH2-u-iH2.*
**
So philosopher Plato's (nick-)name *Πλατων - *Platon, which was given to him
because he was a broad-shaped man, also derives from this great etymon!
Wonderlik!

Best regards,

Marcel.

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From: Leslie Decker <leslie at familydecker.org>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2007.04.01 (01) [E]

> From: Mark Dreyer <mrdreyer at lantic.net>
> Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2007.03.31 (02) [E]
>
> Dear Ron, Wim & Co.
>
> Subject: L-Lowlands Etymology
>
> There's Slavonic * pol- (> pol'e 'field', Polska 'Poland', etc.) that
> belongs to this fascinating etymon.

Cf Czech "pole"

I wonder also if the Czech word "police"--shelf--is related.

Leslie

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From: Jonny Meibohm <altkehdinger at freenet.de>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2007.04.01 (01) [E]

Beste Lowlanners,

Ron schreyv:

P.S.: Psss ... Don't believe anything Jonny says today. Just take a look at
the calendar and remember that he'll grab any old excuse to take us for
fools.  (For me it's only seven minutes into it, and I'm already on my
guard.)

He- you're a killjoy today ;-)! Watchout for the next year- I already have
got one to confuse the world of etymology one more time!

But that may be a substitute for this time: I just learned a new word in LS:
'Tittbuddel'. I don't translate it because I think nearly every lowlander in
her/his early youth came into contact with it and thus must be able to
understand.

Kind greetings to all at the 1st of April!

Jonny Meibohm

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Etymology

Leslie:

> Cf Czech "pole"
>
> I wonder also if the Czech word "police"--shelf--is related.

I personally don't doubt it.  The root is *pol- and it connotes 'flat
surface' and 'board' among other things.  In fact, I assume that in Russian
both полка polka 'shelf' and полька pol'ka 'female Pole', 'polka' come from
the same sources.

Jonny:

> I just learned a new word in LS: *'Tittbuddel'*.

Ain't that a bit late in life?

It's one of those words that's perfectly respectable in Low Saxon but sounds
rude if translated literally or if thought of from the angle of a related
"high" language.  I suppose that's why it is being avoided in Germany these
days, along with related words, all perfectly fine within the language
itself, at least originally:

   - tit (Titt, masc.): now usually substituted with bost or borst
   - titmelk ~ titmilk (Tittmelk ~ Tittmilk): now usually moudermelk,
   bostmelk, etc.
   - titwark (Tittwark; Wark 'work(s)'): a whopping set of 'em, usually
   on a bovine, but, well ... not necessarily so
   - titkind ~ tittenkind (Tittkind ~ Tittenkind): infant (German Säugling
   < saugen 'to suck') > spoiled brat, infantile person, mommy's boy

> He- you're a killjoy today ;-)! Watchout for the next year- I already have
got one to
> confuse the world of etymology one more time!

Good luck!  March 31 is permanently marked as "Jonny Alert Day" on mycalendar.

Happy April!

Reinhard/Ron
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