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L O W L A N D S - L  -  10 August 2007 - Volume 01
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From: Wesley Parish <wes.parish at paradise.net.nz>
Subject: LL-L "Language maintenance" 2007.08.09 (01) [E]

On Friday 10 August 2007 11:35, Lowlands-L List wrote:
>
> From: Paul Finlow-Bates <wolf_thunder51 at yahoo.co.uk>
> Subject: LL-L "Language maintenance" 2007.08.08 (02) [E]
>
> From: Wesley Parish <wes.parish at paradise.net.nz>
> Subject: LL-L "Language maintenance" 2007.08.06 (03) [E]
> ... my justification for this was my PNG birth made me a sort of
> Pacific Islander, and Maori were the Pacific Islanders native to New
> Zealand,
> and we Pacific Islanders should stick together.
>
> Wesley Parish
>
> Now substitute "European", "White people", "Jews" or indeed anybody you
> like for "Pacific Islander".  Suddenly doesn't sound so admirable does it?

I should perhaps say in my defense, that the average New Zealander didn't
think of themselves as Pacific Islanders at the time.  I read an article by
a
Maori contributor to the Nuclear-Free debate, saying that Pakeha New
Zealanders - New Zealanders of European descent - were now Pacific
Islanders,
since New Zealand was rather plainly an island in the Pacific, and they
should get used to it.

I think you're confusing two different things here - one is the exclusionary
identity - "we are [such-and-such--positive] and anyone else is
[so-and-so--negative]" - the other is the basic statement of identity - "we
are [this] and don't mind that you are [that]".

The exclusionary identity thing is what drives xenophobia, and such; I don't
condone it.  But keeping to the simple statement of identity - particularly
in a situation where some people are making it sound divisive - can help
clear the air.  It just requires keeping a level head.

FWIW, that's my view on this matter.
>
> Paul Finlow-Bates
>

Wesley Parish
<snip>
--
Clinersterton beademung, with all of love - RIP James Blish
-----
Gaul is quartered into three halves.  Things which are
impossible are equal to each other.  Guerrilla
warfare means up to their monkey tricks.
Extracts from "Schoolboy Howlers" - the collective wisdom
of the foolish.
-----
Mau e ki, he aha te mea nui?
You ask, what is the most important thing?
Maku e ki, he tangata, he tangata, he tangata.
I reply, it is people, it is people, it is people.

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