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L O W L A N D S - L - 08 February 2007 - Volume 05

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From: Paul Finlow-Bates <wolf_thunder51 at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: LL-L 'Grammar' 2007.02.08 (01) [E/German]

rom: Theo Homan < theohoman at yahoo.com>
Subject: LL-L 'Grammar' 2007.02.07 (11) [E]

[...]

thus proving a basic Celtic nature of English despite
it being almost devoid of Celtic words.
[...]

Hello,

Maybe not so.
A lot of the words we assume to be Latin loans are
very much alike the Celtic words.

vr.gr.
Theo Homan

***
Hi Theo,
The vast majority of Latin words in English are deliberate introductions
dating from the Modern era, (later than roughly 1500 c.e, mostly later than
1600)  and are clearly identifiable as Latin.  A handful of early Latin
borrowings into Old English (*wic* from L. *vicus* etc.) are also pretty
easy to trace to Latin roots, and even if they were actually Celtic, they
are so few that the basic argument that English has very few Celtic words
holds true.  There are later Celtic borrowings (eisteddfodd, whisky,
ceilidh) but these are specific introductions for particular concepts, and
are no more evidence of a Celtic basis to English than "chocolate" or
"tomato" mean there is a Nahuatl (Aztec) basis.

Cheers
Paul Finlow-Bates

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From: "heatherrendall at tiscali.co.uk" <heatherrendall at tiscali.co.uk>
Subject: LL-L 'Grammar' 2007.02.08 (01) [E/German]

I have already mentioned a book ( 1890s reprint ) I have called Celtic
influences
on the Lancashire dialect

In it are such words as 'miffed' and 'chuffed' which are now common parlance
 but in my childhood were unheard.
I imagine they have been spread by T V soaps; Coronation Street seems
particularly
fond of both these words and being both delightful have been adopted by
English
at Large.

The lists of loan words extended to many pages!

And of course Celtic influenced placenames: Avon  Malvern   combe   Bree
etc

HeatherI have already mentioned a book ( 1890s reprint ) I have called
Celtic influences
on the Lancashire dialect

In it are such words as 'miffed' and 'chuffed' which are now common parlance
 but in my childhood were unheard.
I imagine they have been spread by T V soaps; Coronation Street seems
particularly
fond of both these words and being both delightful have been adopted by
English
at Large.

The lists of loan words extended to many pages!

And of course Celtic influenced placenames: Avon  Malvern   combe   Bree
etc

Heather

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