LL-L "Etymology" 2007.11.10 (01) [D/E]

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From: Jacqueline Bungenberg de Jong <Dutchmatters at comcast.net>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2007.11.09 (04) [E]

Elsie gives the definition of Afrikaans skoorzoek as looking for trouble and
skoorvoet as walking around looking for trouble.

Hi Elsie, Guess what! In Dutch schoorvoetend means (and I am quoting van
Dale) " de voeten schrap zettend, thans  alleen fig. tegenstribbelend,
aarzelend of weifelend voort- of te werk gaan". If we assume that the word
came to South Africa with the original sailors, we need to ask somebody with
a historical dictionary to find out what it meant in the 16th century and
whether the meaning changed in the Northern hemisphere or in the South.
Jacqueline
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From: Theo Homan <theohoman at yahoo.com>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2007.11.09 (06) [D/E]

> From: Roland Desnerck <desnerck.roland at skynet.be>
> Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2007.11.09 (04) [E]
[...]
> Doet mij hieraan denken: schouders (shoulders)
> steunen toch ook; daar zou
> wel eens een verband met "schoren kunnen zijn.
> Schouders zijn bij ons
> trouwens: sjhoeres!
> Toetnoasteki,
> Roland Desnerck

Hallo,

'schouders / shoulders' hadden 1000 jaar terug vormen
met 'sculd'.

Dus maar niet bij  'schoren'.

vr.gr.
Theo Homan

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From: Luc Hellinckx <luc.hellinckx at gmail.com>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology"

Beste Lowlanders,

According to Daniel Cassidy, much of (American) English slang was
actually derived from Irish.
The guy won the American Book Award for nonfiction this year with a book
in which he explains how common words like "dork", "slum", "buddy",
"geezer", "dude", "dig" and many others can all be traced back to Irish
Gaelic.

More here:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/08/nyregion/08irish.html?em&ex=1194843600&en=1c7fcd79481b7928&ei=5087%0A

Nice vid btw.

Kind greetings,

Luc Hellinckx

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From: R. F. Hahn < sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Etymology

Above, Jacqueline quotes van Dale regarding Afrikaans *skorvoet* and Dutch *
schoorvoetend*:
" de voeten schrap zettend, thans  alleen fig. tegenstribbelend, aarzelend
of weifelend voort- of te werk gaan"

Hmm ... I wonder if this has anything to do with German and Low Saxon *scharren
~ schurren* 'to scrape', 'to shuffel (one's feet)'. If so, there's supposed
to be a connection between this and German *schaben*, Low Saxon
*schaven*and English
*shave*.

This may may show us once again that a large number of forms have been
generated from a fairly small number of ancestral roots.

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron

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