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From: Ingmar Roerdinkholder <ingmar.roerdinkholder at WORLDONLINE.NL>
Subject: LL-L "Resources" 2008.02.08 (05) [E]
Did you notice that Dutch G is pronounced as H in Zeelandic? It shares
this with the Flemish dialect group in Belgium/France of course, but, more
interesting, with Czech and Slovak as well, which have H where the other
Slavonic languages have G. I think to remember Southern Russian, Ukrainian
and maybe Belorus have a velar G, as well, just like Standard Dutch.
Southern Dutch,i.e. Brabantish, Limburgish and Kleverlands, have a palatal
G sound, say the voiced equivalent of the German ich-laut
Ingmar
Reindert die ee heschreev'n:
Just now I installed an audio file for one of our Zeelandic translations of
the story:
http://lowlands-l.net/anniversary/zeeuws.php
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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Phonology
I sure noticed it, Inging. I was tempted to add a remark about it to my
posting but then decided to let people discover it themselves.
Just for the record, to extend the Slavonic picture at a side glance:
- *g >*
*
- Polish: *g* [g]
- Kashubian (Eastern Pomeranian): *g* [g]
- Slovincian (Eastern Pomeranian): *g* [g]
- Polabian: *g* *[g], *ch* *[ɣ] ~ [x]
- Lower Sorbian (Lusatian): *g* [g]
- Upper Sorbian (Lusatian): *h* [h]
- Czech: *h* [ɦ] (voiced "h", as in Afrikaans)
- Slovak: *h* [ɦ] (voiced "h", as in Afrikaans)
- Rusyn (Ruthenian): *г* [ɦ] (voiced "h", as in Afrikaans;
versus *ґ* [g])
- Ukrainian: *г* [ɦ] (voiced "h", as in Afrikaans; versus *ґ*[g])
- Belarusan: *г* [ɣ]
- Russian: *г* [g]
- Slovenian: *g* [g]
- Croatian: *g* [g]
- Serbian: *g /** г** * [g]
- Bosnian: *g /** г** * [g]
- Macedonian: ***г** * [g]
- Slavic in Greece: [g]
- Bulgarian: *г** * [g]
- Old Church Slavonic: *г** * [g]
Note also that foreign /h/ is usually rendered as *г* [g] in Russian.
Regards,
Reinhard/Ron
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