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From: heatherrendall at tiscali.co.uk <heatherrendall at tiscali.co.uk>
Subject: LL-L "Traditions" 2008.07.03 (06) [D/E/German]

>From Heatherrendall at tiscali.co.uk

I'd forgotten all about this one! I've added the last few lines which arose
unbidden to mind, as soon as I read what you had written Ron!

A farmer went trotting
Upon his gray mare;
Bumpety, bumpety, bump!
With his daughter behind him,
So rosy and fair;
Lumpety, lumpety, lump!

A raven cried "Croak!"
And they all tumbled down.

Bumpety Bumpety Bump

The mare lost her knees

and the farmer his crown (head)

Bumpety Bumpety Bump



best wishes

Heather

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From: Paul Finlow-Bates <wolf_thunder51 at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: LL-L "Traditions" 2008.07.03 (07) [E]

From: Thomas Mc Rae <t.mcrae at uq.net.au>
Subject: LL-L "Traditions" 2008.07.03 (06) [D/E/German]

 On 04/07/2008, at 9:30 AM, heatherrendall at tiscali.co.uk <
heatherrendall at tiscali.co.uk wrote:

Subject: LL-L "Traditions" 2008.07.02 (02) [D/E]

In Opie's Oxford Book of Nursery Rhymes they recount the same game being
played to nonsense words in ( I think) somewhere in Holland. But as the
nonsense words start off with something like Humpty Dumpty, they concluded
that it was a remnant from the 18th century British soldiers who played
Humpty Dumpty with the children in their billets.

According to "The Old Lady" the staff magazine of the Bank of England (Old
Lady of Threadneedle Street) the origin of Humpty is much more interesting
and goes back  to the time of the English Civil War. During a Royalist siege
of a Roundhead occupied city (Warwick ?) the cavaliers started wheeling a
massive siege engine/battering ram towards the walls over very tough ground.
Along the device bounced "Humpty", "Dumpty" until it shook itself apart and
collapsed never to be put together again. A childrens' opera has been
written based on this version of the tale.
Another claim is that during the siege of Colchester by Roundhead troops the
Royalists placed a huge cannon atop a church tower
which wrecked havoc until the tower was hit by a lucky shot and collapsed
destroying the cannon..
Quien sabe ?
   Regards
Tom Mc Rae


We were always taight that Humpty Dumpty was Cardinal Wolsey, deposed by
Henry VIII with the Reformation and dissolution of monasteries; his "sitting
on the wall" was trying to keep in with the Pope and Henry VIII.

I suspect there'sre any number of explanations

Paul Finlow-Bates

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