LL-L "Phonology" 2008.06.14 (02) [E]

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From: Roger Thijs, Euro-Support, Inc. <roger.thijs at euro-support.be>
Subject: LL-L Phonolpgy

 Some time ago Ron had questions about "rolling" the uvular R.

Actually a rolling uvular R is quite common for Belgian Dutch speakers from
Brussels, Tongeren, ... (towns relatively close to the language border),
even Ghent (town with a French speaking bourgeoisie for a long time).

I found a book today with a brief instruction how to learn and how (not) to
pronounce both rR as commonly heard in Belgian Dutch (In the Netherlands
they even have a larger variety of "r"s).

I scanned:
- for the *apico-alveolar r*:
http://www.euro-support.be/temp/apal.jpg
- for the *uvular R*:
http://www.euro-support.be/temp/uv.jpg
Ron, pse try exercise nr 30. I'm sure it will work.

What is listed as "fout" (error) may be heard incidentally as variant.

Both are scanned from:
Greet Huybrechts e.a., "*Articulatie in de praktijk: consonanten*", Acco,
Leuven & Voorburg, zesde druk, 2007, ISBN 978-90-334-4030-4, 280 pp.

The book is not very interesting for learning scientifically about
pronounciation. It is more a collection of "*long lists of words*" for each
phoneme in combination with other relevant and intentionally choosen
phonemes as *exercise material for patients of logopedists*.

There is a similar publication for vowels:
Greet Huybrechts e.a., "*Articulatie in de praktijk: vocalen en diftongen*",
Acco, Leuven & Voorburg, zesde druk, 2007, ISBN 978-90-334-4031-1, 123 pp.

Enjoy the gargling,
Regards,
Roger

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Phonology

Thanks a lot, Roger!

I'll practice it. I can already do it but not dry. ;-)

Here is my translation:

   - Gargling with a little water, head tilted back
   - The same exercise without water, perhaps with a little saliva; vocal
   chords must vibrate
   - Gargling with head tilted back, saying R while bringing head back up
   - R between two vowels: aaRaa, eeRee ...
   - In combination with a back consonant, preferably k: kRaa, kRee ...
   - The gradually omitting the kRaa, kRaa, Raa ..
   - Practicing the rest of the possible combinations and positions

By the way, I think the clearest pronunciation of the trilled uvular r is
that of the recording for the Wren translation in Nieuwpoort West Flemish:
http://lowlands-l.net/anniversary/westvlams2.php

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron

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