LL-L "Etymology" 2008.03.14 (03) [E]
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From: Luc Hellinckx <luc.hellinckx at gmail.com>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology"
Beste Mark,
Je schreef:
>> So I take it this *helling* and *hellen* are related to English "hill."
> If so, perhaps the original meaning was less "slope" than "be elevated."
Yes, Ron, & what about tyhe words 'Heil' & 'Heilige'? While terminology may
differ totally between language, metaphor differs rather less, & we all
raise up what we admire, however we express it.
True. Great idea btw.
However, "heil(ige)" seemingly goes back to another PIE root *kailo, which
roughly translates as "sign".
Kind greetings,
Luc Hellinckx
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From: Luc Hellinckx <luc.hellinckx at gmail.com>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology"
Beste Diederik,
You wrote:
Interesting is that this hall comes from hallr, stone. OED says the root
khel- is supposed to mean something like "to elevate", so I guess the
meaning "stone" is secondary. Another related word is "helle"/"hella", the
verb "to pour".
You could be on to something there!
If a transitive verb "helle/hella" means "to pour" (which language?), maybe
intransitive Dutch "hellen" should merely be interpreted as the triggering
force that makes water pour. Water is stagnant on a flat surface, but on a
sloping one, it moves, streams, flows. That reflects precisely what I
mentioned earlier on, when I quoted a farmer saying "het land draagt af naar
location X or Y"; he doesn't so much focus on the "helling" itself, but
rather on the action of water running down in a certain direction.
Kind greetings,
Luc Hellinckx
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