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From: Marcus Buck <list at marcusbuck.org>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2008.10.05 (02) [E]

Subject: LL-L "Etymology"

Beste Lowlanners, Reinhard in special,

yesterday I became remembered at an old Low Saxon word: *"Oart".* It means a
certain measurement for fluid ('schnaps' in special ;-)), and its German
relative probably is 'Quartierchen' (nearly a false Friend to the lately
discussed Dutch 'kwartiertje').

I'd never before seen a shifting from *_qu_* to *_o_* , *from a consonant to
a vowel!!,* and I wonder, how it happened. Does anyone know more examples of
this special kind of 'lautverschiebung'? Could it be a result of the
similarity between the writing of these two letters, in other words - a kind
of vowel shifting via "Schriftsprache" ('written language')?

Allerbest, and enjoy the rest of Sunday!

Jonny Meibohm

They are not related. *Quartierchen* (or *Quartier*) is called so, cause it
is the fourth part of a *Nössel*. According to Schiller-Lübben
*Ort*originally meant the place where two lines meet. From this
developed today's
meaning *place. Ort *for *quarter* developed from the idea, that two lines
meeting at one place dissect the surrounding area into four quarters. See
<http://drw-www.adw.uni-heidelberg.de/drw-cgi/zeige?db=dig&darstellung=v&index=buecher&term=Schiller-Luebben+III&seite=g238-239><http://drw-www.adw.uni-heidelberg.de/drw-cgi/zeige?db=dig&darstellung=v&index=buecher&term=Schiller-Luebben+III&seite=g238-239>(German).

Marcus Buck

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Etymology

Thanks, Marcus.

I assume that *Nössel* is where the verb *nösseln* ~ *nüsseln* 'to carouse',
'to imbibe' comes from.

English has a liquid measure called "quart".

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron
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