LL-L "Etymology" 2009.04.29 (03) [E/LS]

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
 Subject: Etymology

Hi, Diederik!

You wrote:

we(y)nig comes from wai, 'woe' (german 'weh') and I don't see how hwôn with
-hw- could be related to that?

You may be quite right. But ...

   - old *hw-* always developed into Modern *w-*, thus coincided with old *
   w-*; e.g. Saxon *hwan* > *wenn* 'when',* **hwêo* > *wo* 'how',
   - and how do you account for the *-n-* in *weinig* etc.?

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron
Seattle, USA

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From: Marcus Buck <list at marcusbuck.org>
Subject: Etymology

Vör allen in Holsteen un Mekelborg gifft dat den Utdruck "Rebeed" för dat,
wat annerwegens ok "Gebeed" heet. "Gebeed" hett mit "gebied" un "Gebiet" ok
sien Gegenstück op Nedderlandsch un Hoochdüütsch. Ik heff nu allerhand
Wöörböker dörkeken un versöcht de Etymologie von "Rebeed" ruttokriegen.
Narms kunn ik wat finnen. Op Hoochdüütsch heff ik keen Kognaat funnen, op
Nedderlandsch nich, ok Däänsch un Sweedsch hebbt nix wat sik verglieken
lett. Jüstsowenig Engelsch. Nich mal dat Wöörbook von Schiller-Lübben ut de
Hansetied wiest wat to "Rebeed" ("Gebeed" is dor binnen as "gebede").

Is "Rebeed" eenfach blot en korrumpeerte Version von "Gebeed" (de beiden
Wöör seht ja doch temlich ähnlich ut)? Oder hett "Rebeed" villicht slaavsche
Wuddeln? Oder wo mag dat ans von herkamen?

In Holstein and Mecklenburg the Low Saxon word "Rebeed" for "area" is known
(also written "Rebeet" and "Rebeit"). Many other dialects have the word
"Gebeed" for "area". Cognates of "Gebeed" in German and Dutch are "Gebiet"
and "gebied". I looked up several dictionaries to find some information
about the word "Rebeed", but I did not find any related words in German,
Dutch, Danish, Swedish or English. Not even the Middle Low Saxon dictionary
of Schiller-Lübben had any info on the word (the word "Gebeed" is in it in
the form "gebede").

So I wonder, is "Rebeed" perhaps a corrupted version of "Gebeed" (both words
look quite similar)? Or maybe "Rebeed" has Slavic roots? Or does anybody
have another idea where the word derives from?

Marcus Buck

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