LL-L "Etymology" 2009.11.15 (06) [EN]

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From: Jacqueline Bungenberg de Jong <Dutchmatters at comcast.net>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2009.11.15 (03) [DE-EN]

Hello Jonny, Sorry this in English, my German is just enough to ask for the
road to the train station,

I think I might be able to help you. In Dutch we have next to the words
etgras,etgroede and etland which clearly fall under the meaning that you
have found, also the  word “etmaal” meaning twice eb and twice flood, a
period of 24 hours. So wouldn’t the meaning be the grass that sticks up its
head, grows if you will, within twenty four hours after mowing?

Hope this helps,

Jacqueline BdJ

Seattle WA
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From: Jonny <jonny.meibohm at arcor.de>
 Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2009.11.15 (05) [EN]

 Beste Luc,

very short because it's very late:

What's the Saxon verb for a cow chewing her cud?
We say "edderkäuen" (iterum!!??;-)), I've heard "adderkäuen", too; DE
"widerkäuen".

Allerbest, good night!

Jonny Meibohm
Lower Saxony, Germany

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From: Henry Pijffers <henry.pijffers at gmail.com>
 Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2009.11.15 (03) [DE-EN]

> From: Jonny <jonny.meibohm at arcor.de>
 >
> during my "hunting" for nearly forgotten LS-words, which I'd like to
> conserve, I came upon LS "Etgrao" (spoken like 'at-grow') in the meaning
of
> 'grass for a second mowing'. This word still is part of my own vocabulary,
> and I found it in the old Dictionary for Middle Saxon of Schiller-Lübben
as
> 'Et(h)grode'.
>
It's also known in Dutch as "etgroen":

http://www.dbnl.org/tekst/cali003nieu01_01/cali003nieu01_01_0008.htm

or "etgroei":

http://books.google.nl/books?id=8J6t78IJSc4C&pg=PA66&lpg=PA66&dq=etgroei&source=bl&ots=Uei5PAyTCE&sig=wPmezbglYBQARlLmG_GAboYyW9o&hl=nl&ei=3aEAS6XSI9rKjAfQ2aWYCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=9&ved=0CC4Q6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=etgroei&f=false

cheers,
Henry

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
 Subject: Etymology

Oh, my goodness! It's Henry!

Jonny, I think you're on the right track.

Low Saxon:
*Ettgröön* 'second mowing of gras' (~ *Namaad *~ *Naagras*)
*Ettmaal* 'period of 24 hours', 'period between low and high tide'
*edderkauen ~ adderkauen* 'to chew the cud'
*addern* 'to constantly moan, groan and whine'

Old Saxon:
*ed* 'again'

Old Low Frankish:
**ed-* 'again'

Old Frisian:
**et-* 'again'
*etmēl(de)* 'period of 24 hours'

Old English:
**ed-* 'again'
*edreccan* 'to chew the cud'
*edníewe* 'anew'
*edbyrdan* 'to revive'
*edmǽle* '(periodically recurring) festivity'
*edléan *'reparation'
*edryne* 'return'
*edweala *'whirlpool'
*edwinde* 'whirl'

Old German:
*it* ~ *ita* 'again'
*itaniuwes* 'anew'
*itarukken* 'to chew the cud'
*itberan *~ *itaberan* 'to give birth again', 'to renew'
*iternōn* 'to regrow'
*itgruōd* 'perennial plant'
*itl**ōn* 'reparation'
*itmāl* '(periodically recurring) festivity'
*itslaht* 'relapse'
*itwinde* 'whirl'

Germanic:
**ed*- 'again'

Indo-European:
**eti-* 'again'

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron
Seattle, USA

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