LL-L "Language varieties" 2010.02.10 (03) [EN]

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From: Mark Dreyer <mrdreyer at lantic.net>
Subject: LL-L "Language varieties" 2010.02.10 (01) [EN]

Haai Cliff,



Subject: LL-L "Language varieties"



Good to hear from you. If I might enlarge on your observations: Guys, this
Taal was language learned between adults, more concerned with mutual
understanding (to a degree at least) rather than 'correct forms'. There were
people who took Nederlands seriously, both the teachers & the learners, but
that kind of dedication got you promotion, off to Maritius, Ceylon, the
Colony of Batavia, or even 'De Faderland'.Kaap de Goede Hoop was only a
supply station after all, most carefully NOT a colony, & everybody involved,
from the Governor up, was concerned to keep it that way. Company policy was
of course committed to upholding decent spoken & written Nederlands, or at
least spoken Hollands, even to the point of retaining a schoolmaster for the
slaves' orphanage to teach the same. No doubt they could if they had to, but
no doubt at all the seldom bothered.



One more point; remember that the Taal started as a seaman's tongue. One
word that has not come over from Nederlands into Afrikaans is 'keuchen' =
'kitchen'. To these North-sea matelots the place where food was prepared &
eaten on board was the 'kombuis' = (English cognate)'caboose'.The usage as a
whole has passed into Afrikaans culture, & still today in rustic areas the
kombuis is not only the cooking & dining area, but for socialisation too.
There the tongue was learned & 'regularised'.



Yrs,

Mark

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Language varieties

Thanks, Mark.

Is it not possible that Afrikaans grew from a *mixture *of sources and under
a *mixture *of circumstances mentioned by both Cliff and you, plus more?

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron
Seattle, USA

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