LL-L "Etymology" 2010.02.18 (05) [EN]

[Lowlands-L List]

===============================================
L O W L A N D S - L - 18 February 2010 - Volume 05
lowlands.list at gmail.com - http://lowlands-l.net/
Archive: http://listserv.linguistlist.org/archives/lowlands-l.html
Encoding: Unicode (UTF-08)
Language Codes: lowlands-l.net/codes.php
===============================================


From: Hellinckx Luc <luc.hellinckx at gmail.com>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology"

Beste Diederik,

You wrote:

> Re Joachim (on somtiids):
>
> Al these forms occur in Antwerpian and I'm sure in most Brabantish
dialects. Modern Standard Dutch uses only "soms", the other forms sound very
archaic. But next to "soems" dialect speakers will still use "soemteds" (or
full "soemtijds"), "soemwijle", which also occurs in reduced form as
"sewijle" (more on the countryside I think) or "swijle" (also in the city).

Standard dialect word for "sometimes" in Southern Brabantish seems to be
"vantijd". I've also heard "somwijlen" (soemaëlen) a couple of times, but
it's very rare these days. "Soems" is of course a direct calque of Standard
Dutch "soms".

In the South "s(e)wijle" does not stand for "sometimes". Rather, it means
"terwijl", (mean)while (E), and it comes in the following forms
s(e)wijle(n)(s)(t), often shortened to "swens(t), swajnst" (paragogic -t-).
Origin: deswijlen.

More here: http://tinyurl.com/ydw65ln

Kind greetings,

Luc Hellinckx, Halle, Belgium



==============================END===================================

 * Please submit postings to lowlands-l at listserv.linguistlist.org.

 * Postings will be displayed unedited in digest form.

 * Please display only the relevant parts of quotes in your replies.

 * Commands for automated functions (including "signoff lowlands-l")

   are to be sent to listserv at listserv.linguistlist.org or at

   http://linguistlist.org/subscribing/sub-lowlands-l.html.

*********************************************************************
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listserv.linguistlist.org/pipermail/lowlands-l/attachments/20100218/a7d798d3/attachment.htm>