LL-L "Delectables" 2010.01.31 (02) [EN]

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From: Paul Finlow-Bates <wolf_thunder51 at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: LL-L "Delectables" 2010.01.31 (01) [EN]

Ours tended to be Maltese or Greek Cypriots in the 60s and 70s, but that
clearly wasn't the the explanation for the difference from what you say.
 Whatever it was, yours did something that our chip-shop owners didn't. (Or
didn't do something ours did!)

Paul

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From: Sandy Fleming <sandy at fleimin.demon.co.uk>
Subject: LL-L "Delectables" 2010.01.30 (02) [EN]

> From: Paul Finlow-Bates <wolf_thunder51 at yahoo.co.uk>
 > Subject: LL-L "Delectables" 2010.01.29 (02) [EN]
>
> Scottish chippies have been superior to ours in England for as long I
> can remember, with only a few exceptions.  I remember my first visit
> there in 1969; there was one place in my home town of Leicester that
> could match what any chip shop there could do routinely.

It may not be the best source to quote, but on the TV programme "QI"
recently (I say that, but probably it's a repeat from 1804 or
something), Stephen Fry was holding forth on the rise of the British
chip shop being due to government subsidies to try and alleviate health
problems such as rickets by making sure everybody got a substantial
portion of fish at least once a week.

I wonder if it could be that Scottish fryers are better due to the
extreme poverty in Glasgow in the mid-twentieth century resulting in the
problem being taken more seriously there?

Sandy Fleming
http://scotstext.org/

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Delectables

Dear Lowlanders,

Just in case any of you do not already know this, please let me explain that
what our British friends call "chips" (or "chippies") are what in North
America are called "(French) fries" (even though they are supposed to have
been invented in Belgium) and on much of the European continent *pommes de
terre frites* ("deep-fried potatoes"), usually shortened to *pommes frites*and
*frites*.

Furthermore:

Afrikaans: *slaptjips*
Danish: *pommes frites*, *fritter*
Dutch: *friet*, *Vlaamse friet*, *patates frites
   *West Flemish: *frietn*, *frittn*, *friets*, *frietjes*
German: *Pommes Frites*, *Fritten
*Limburgish: *friete
*Luxembourgish: *Fritten
*Swedish: *pommes frites**, **fransk potatis*
**
What are called "chips" in North America tend to be called "crisps" in
Britain.

However, in North America "fish and chips" has in more recent years become a
type of fashion food on the cusp of becoming ordinary. In this case
"(French) fries" are indeed called "chips," because the name comes as a
"package" and originally targeted especially the Europhile crowd. It seems
to have begun in places calling themselves "pubs" and has in the meantime
spread to other types of drinking holes and eateries. Americanization has
led to serving the fish with tartar sauce and the "chips" with ketchup,
often with hot sauce as well, although waiters tend to bring along a bottle
of malt vinegar for those that prefer it. Another sign of Americanization is
that the "chips" are oftentimes what in North America are called "steak
fries" or "country fries": more thickly cut strips of potatoes with or
without skin.

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron
Seattle, USA

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