LL-L "Literature" 2011.08.04 (02) [DE-EN-NDS]

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From: Mark and Ruth Dreyer mrdreyer at lantic.net
Subject: LL-L "Literature" 2011.08.03 (04) [EN]

Dear Ron & Marcus

Subject: LL-L "Literature"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuvash_people

    I would prefer to believe that the 'saga' is from the earliest as much a
part of Chuvash tradition - I would rather say history - as that of the
Anglo-Saxon, or in any event their immediate precursors. Attila was by no
means a background figure to North-Central Europe & all its peoples. To be
sure Attila had Turkaic as he had Germanic hostages in his court.
    & those who study works of oral tradition are I am told repeatedly
impressed with their - um - 'textual' fidelity over generations & ages.

Yrs,
Mark

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From: Mark and Ruth Dreyer mrdreyer at lantic.net
Subject: LL-L "Literature" 2011.08.03 (09) [DE-EN]

Dear Marcus, Ron & All:

Subject: LL-L "Literature"

Ron & Marcus, your notes follow.

If I may shove in my pennyworth here;

    Conceding to Wikipedia that it is a combination of two names, I should
point out that it does indeed mean - baldly put - 'disguised'' (in Afrikaans
we call a woman's make-up 'grimering'), however the term itself has a heavy
mythological burden. Grim, Grimr, what-have-you is specifically an
appelation of Woden, the crow-glutter, god of war, in his wanderings among
men. You will not know him, until for weal or woe he makes himself known to
you.
    Hild, held, haleth, what-have-you means hero, as it does to us today but
in the terminology of battlecraft then it it referred to the man who stands
foremost in the battle-line, a good place to meet Grimr...
    To enlarge on my guess, the name Grimhilda is suitable girl's name for a
warrior-race, an evocation both of the god of war & a position commanding
utmost respect among her peers.

Yrs,
    Mark

Kriem*hild* <> *Hild*iko (> Ildikó) ?

Wikipedia:
Der Name ist zusammengesetzt aus zwei
althochdeutschen<http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Althochdeutsche_Sprache>Bestandteilen:
ahd.
*grim* = Maske, Verkleidung und ahd. *hilt(j)a* = Held, Recke, Kämpe,
Kämpfer. Der Name *Kriemhild* bedeutet folglich wörtlich übersetzt:
*verkleideter
Held*.

"Disguised/masked hero"? Why such a name for a woman?

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From: Hannelore Hinz <hannehinz at t-online.de> <hannehinz at t-online.de>
Subject: LL-L "Literature" 2011.08.03 (09) [DE-EN]

Hier ok noch wat tau de Namens:

*Kriemhild (e), Krimhild (e)
*[altnord. grima >Maske, Helm< + ahd. hiltja  >Kampf<]

*Mechthild *[ahd. maht >Macht, Kraft< + hiltja >Kampf<], identisch mit
Mathilde. Niederdt. Kf. *Metta

Mathilde *[ahd. maht >Macht, Kraft< + hiltja >Kampf<], identisch mit
Mechthild. Kf. *Thilde, Tilde; Tilla, Tilli, Tilly, Maud.

*Lit.: *VEB BIBLIOGRAPHISCHES INSTITUT LEIPZIG . 1984*

Best' Gräuten.

Hanne

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