LL-L "Technica" 2011.06.12 (02) [EN]

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From: Roger Thijs, Euro-Support, Inc. roger.thijs at euro-support.be
Subject: LL-L Technical

Some of you are very proficient in squeezing exotic character sets in your
mail, and I am still puzzling how it all works.

1 - First of all I see different application levels

a - language of the *start EPROM* of the PC: mostly English I think
b - language / character types of the *operating system* (e.g. what you get
with Windows 7 Premium Service Pack 1)
c - layout and configuration of the *keyboard* (AZERTY or "Belgian French"
generally in Belgium)
d - Fonts loaded *additionally from somewhere* / some soft in the OS
environment (both screen fonts, print fonts)
e - The former includes exotic symbols at the end of each font lists, where
some symbols eventually can be used for other languages (if sufficiently
complete for those languages)
f - *Applications* (e.g. Microsoft Office Professional Pus 2010)
g - Language packages supplied/sold by the *supplier of the
application*(for adjusting the environment (caption on buttons etc.)
and/or for
supporting the appications (speller/grammar check)
 Microsoft sells as well small packages (limited "Language Interface Packs"
and complete "Language Packs")
 I bought a *German *MS Office version on amazon.de some months ago.
 And afterwards the language packages *Dutch, English, French, Swedish,
Greek*
 The latter include the possibility of getting captions on screens and help
files in these languages, and give additionally grammar checks ans thesaurus
functions.
 They also give spelling checkers for a couple of additional languages each,
but since most of them offer English, German and French, there is hardly a
chance one gets something exotic for free.
See below.
Wat languages I got additionally as checkers is:
 Spanish with English and French
 Italian with German,
 Finnish witrh Swedish,
 Arabic with French
h - Modules sold/offered by third parties: chinese / ipa and applicable ..
where to find?
btw:
. Where can one fine chinese sets and ipa sets? (Was already discussed in
this list)
. Do these programs just deliver fonts (and a virtual keyboard on screen?)
or do they deliver also some forms of language assistance?
. Do they apply at windows level for all appications: MS Word; Mail
Programms (outgoing mail); pdf converters; web page composerd

2 - What about the readers of web mail and web pages?
Do you have to blow-up your stuff and embed font sets in your applications
for being sure your readers will be able to read?
Or can you force their computers to find an appropriate font set on the web
automatically?

3 - Hardware
What about keyboards:
Has it sense to buy e.g. a cyrillic keyboard additionally, and switch
keyboards when switching languages?
(I once had to program in a unix environment and at the time I switched
often between a Belgian AZERTY keuboard and a US QUERTY keyboard)
How to map exotic characters to the keys of the keyboard? Doing it all with
alt-1234?

Thanks ahead for all comments.
Regards,

Annex: MS Office language packages (cost actually: 27 euro each for
downloading)

*"The table below lists all localized versions of the Office 2010 suites,
along with the languages of the proofing tools provided in each.
To work in languages not included in your localized version, you can get
individual Office Language Packs 2010. Office Language Packs include
Display, Help, and editing tools for many languages; you can add Office
Language Packs to any of the products listed in the table below. This table
can also be used to determine which companion document proofing languages
are included in individual Office Language Packs."*

Localized version Includes proofing tools in these languages
Arabic   Arabic, French, English
Bulgarian   Bulgarian, English, German, Russian
Chinese (Simplified)   Chinese (Simplified), English
Chinese (Traditional)   Chinese (Traditional), English
Croatian   Croatian, English, German, Italian, Serbian Cyrillic, Serbian
Latin
Czech   Czech, English, German, , Slovak
Danish   Danish, English, German, Swedish
+ *Dutch*   Dutch, English, French, German
+ *English*   English, French, **Spanish**
Estonian   Estonian, English, Finnish, German, Russian
Finnish   Finnish, English, German, Russian, Swedish
+ *French*   French, **Arabic*,* Dutch, English, German, **Spanish**
+ *German*   German, English, French, **Italian**
+ *Greek*   Greek, English, French, German
Hebrew   Hebrew, Arabic, English, French, Russian
Hindi   Hindi, English, Gujarati, Kannada, Marathi, Punjabi, Tamil, Telugu,
Urdu
Hungarian   Hungarian, English, German
Italian   Italian, English, French, German
Japanese   Japanese, English
Kazakh   English, Russian
Korean   Korean, English
Latvian   Latvian, English, German, Russian
Lithuanian   Lithuanian, English, German, Polish, Russian
Norwegian   Norwegian, English, German, Norwegian (Nynorsk)
Polish   Polish, English, German
Portuguese (Brazil)   Portuguese (Brazil), English, Spanish
Portuguese (Portugal)   Portuguese (Portugal), English, Spanish
Romanian   Romanian, English, French
Russian   Russian, English, German, Ukrainian
Serbian   Serbian, Croatian, English, French, German
Slovak   Slovak, Czech, English, German , Hungarian
Slovenian   Slovenian, Croatian, English, German, Italian
Spanish   Spanish, Basque, Catalan, English, French, Galician, Portuguese
(Brazil)
+ *Swedish  * Swedish, English, **Finnish*,* German
Thai   Thai, English, French
Turkish   Turkish, English, French, German
Ukrainian   Ukrainian, English, German, Russian

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Technica

Hi, Roger!

A quick and dirty way accessing and then copying and pasting "special"
characters, for example into e-mail messages, is though Richard Ishida's
"Unicode character pickers": http://people.w3.org/rishida/scripts/pickers/

For instance, the Latin picker offers you all the characters you need, and
then some: http://people.w3.org/rishida/scripts/pickers/latin/

There is also a nifty IPA picker:
http://people.w3.org/rishida/scripts/pickers/ipa/

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron
Seattle, USA


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