LL-L "Etymology" 2012.10.03 (01) [EN]

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From: Theo Homan theohoman at yahoo.com

Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2012.10.02 (01) [DE-EN-NDS]


Hello Veturliði,
>  The word "wambuis" was, certainly before 1900,  in the Netherlands the
> right word for "buis" or "kiel". It was a buttonless  piece of
> clothing that covered the body from neck to hips. Such as sailors and
> the Royal navy semen  wear. In the neighbourhood of Apeldoorn in the
> Netherlands is a restaurant called "Planken Wambuis". It may have been
> built with timber wood, but nobody knows what is has to do with
> Wambuis or jacket.
> I hope this will answere your question a bit.
> Dick.
>

Hi,

As we can learn from  http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planken_Wambuis
a "planken wambuis" is an euphemism for a coffin.

You certainly must be a very optimistic restaurant-owner to have a
restaurant with such a name.

ps: well, the restaurant-name came later; the region had the name first,
probably because people got the timber for their coffins there.

vr.gr
Theo Homan.

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From: Mike Morgan mwmbombay at gmail.com

Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2012.10.02 (01) [EN]


As Kevin notes:

> Ah, here’s a clue: the English word “gambeson” is related, and the
> connection seems to be OHG *wamba*, “stomach, belly” (related to “womb”).

meaning, of course (?) that the English "gambe-" is a borrowing from
the (Norman) French which was a borrowing from the Germanic *wamba-
(cf "war" vs French "guerre", Germanic "ward" vs Romance "garden")

Although not sure that the source of "war" is an Indo-European root
(question: are Russian горе /gore/ "woe" and  горкий /gorkij/ "bitter"
related?), the source of ward/gard(en) is; and the Indo European has a
initial *g- (cf Russian город /gorod/ "town" (i.e. a walled enclosure
... which is what a "garden" is as well)

interestingly enough then English "restores" the original *g- in
"gambe(son)" by borrowing a borrowing

ALSO not sure if the Indic गर्भ garbha- "womb" is related... -r- vs
-m- (both of which are not too uncommon as "infixes" in IE languages)

mwm || *U*C> || mike || माईक || мика || マイク (aka Dr Michael W Morgan)
sign language linguist / linguistic typologist
academic adviser, Nepal Sign Language Training and Research
NDFN, Kathmandu, Nepal

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