Quenqueh quihtoa Teotlac/tiotlac??

[micc2]

Ceyoc tlahtlanilli:

re: The word Teotlac in classic Nahuatl, and Tiotlac in Chicontepec Nahuatl

teo = god, divine, super... ( as in sun)

 what does the TLAC signify?  my guess: it has to do with the sun 
descending?

Tlazcamati miyec!


micc2 wrote:

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> idiez at MAC.COM wrote:
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>> "ichtli" is the maguey fiber used to make ropes ("mecatl") in the 
>> Huasteca.
>> "cuaichtli" is a an older person with white hair.
>> "nocuaichhui", "my white hair"
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>> John Sullivan
>> Teicneltzin tlen zan tlamachtihtinemi canahya
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>> On Aug 19, 2005, at 5:28 PM, Frye, David wrote:
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>>     That must be it. Frances Karttunen's dictionary has i:ch-tli,
>>     thread made from maguey fiber (which is what sisal or henequen
>>     is, you know).
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>>     Santamaria's Diccionario de Mejicanismos has:
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>>     *Ixtle* (Del azt. /ixtli/). m. Nombre generico, aztequismo que se
>>     ha hecho de uso universal para llamar toda clase de fibras
>>     vegetales. 2. Nombre que se aplica al genero vegetal de los
>>     /Agaves/ y a las plantas que lo forman y que producen fibra,
>>     caracteristicas de Mejico, en numerosisimas especies que tienen
>>     varios nombres peculiares y regionales. 3. Por extension y en
>>     terminos de charreria, la reata de lazar, el peal, la
>>     lechuguilla, y esto por donaire.
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>>     (Santamaria, you should know, was no nahuatlato.)
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>>     I recall that in San Luis Potosi the word ixtle was used for the
>>     fiber/ropes made from the lechuguilla, a maguey-like plant but a
>>     lot tinier than your average maguey.
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>>     David Frye
>>     Dependent scholar
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>>     *From:* Nahua language and culture discussion on behalf of
>>     Stafford Poole
>>     *Sent:* Fri 8/19/2005 5:30 PM
>>     *To:* NAHUAT-L at LISTS.UMN.EDU
>>     *Subject:* Re: Ixtle -sisal-henequin?
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>>     The only word I can think of is ichtli, meaning the thread spun
>>     from the
>>     maguey fiber.  The confusion of x and ch was not uncommon in
>>     older documents and
>>     the pronunciations are close.
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>>     Stafford Poole
>>     Independent scholar
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