Translation of Tzompantli
Raul macuil martinez
macuil2 at MSN.COM
Wed Jan 12 23:20:33 UTC 2005
Saludos...
Yo soy de Tlaxcala y efectivamente mucha gente que lleva por último
apellido el de Tzompantzi, principalmente el municipio que se llama Santa
Ana Chiauhtempan y en el poblado llamado Contla de Juan Cuamatzi. Pero mi
pregunta es la siguiente:
A que se refieren exactamente al decir : Wonder what these guys did
for a living... One man in Tlaxcala was running for a local
municipal election. Would you vote for a Tzompantzin?.
Podrían ser un poco más especifícos?.
Miec tlaçocamati.
>From: Archaeology Institute <institute at CSUMB.EDU>
>Reply-To: Nahua language and culture discussion <NAHUAT-L at LISTS.UMN.EDU>
>To: NAHUAT-L at LISTS.UMN.EDU
>Subject: Re: Translation of Tzompantli
>Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:46:50 -0800
>
>"John B. Carlson" <Tlaloc at umd.edu> writes:
> >Ruben,
> >
> >Here's one important paper you should know:
> >
> >Miller, Virginia E.
> >1999 The Skull Rack in Mesoamerica. In Mesoamerican Architecture
> >as a Cultural Symbol (Jeff Karl Kowalski, Editor):pp. 340-360. Oxford
> >University Press, New York.
> >
> >I will be interested in replies concerning the etymology as well as
> >nuances of meaning associated with the Tzompantli. In Tlaxcala, there
> >are a number of people with the last named Tzompantzi. I would be
> >sure the original name was Tzompantzin. Wonder what these guys did
> >for a living... One man in Tlaxcala was running for a local
> >municipal election. Would you vote for a Tzompantzin?
> >
> >John Carlson
>
>Dear John,
>
> Thank you for your prompt response...I was away at the Magical
>Kingdom in Anaheim (aka: Disneyland) with my family and returned just a
>couple of days ago. It has been some time since I last had contact with
>you (Aztec exhibit at the Denver Museum
>of Natural History), but wanted to let you know that I currently have a
>manuscript under review regarding my recent archaeoastronomy (solar
>geometry) studies of the California missions. At present, I have a dozen
>sites with confirmed solstice and
>equinox orientations...with attendant illuminations of tabernacle features
>and the like.
>
> As for the tzompantli article, that is currently under review for
>a volume on The Taking and Displaying of Human Trophies by Amerindians, and
>the article by Virginia Miller proved a great point of departure, but
>unlike the Miller paper, my analysis
>centers on a cosmological and iconographic analysis of the architectural
>feature in question. In my paper, I draw on the legend of the Hero Twins
>as a basis for interpreting extant associations between tzompantli and
>ballcourt features, and in
>turn, on the cults of decapitation that co-occur with said features that
>first appear in Gulf lowland contexts...or that point of departure
>attributed to such groups as the Quiche (the authors of the Popol Vuh).
>Beyond that, I await further
>commentaries and reviews as to the paper, but Arthur Demarest (one of the
>conference paper reviewers) was particularly interested in my results and
>interpretations...so I am hoping for the best as per the current reviews.
>
>Best Regards,
>
>
>Ruben G. Mendoza, Ph.D., Director
>Institute for Archaeological Science, Technology and Visualization
>Social and Behavioral Sciences
>California State University Monterey Bay
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