Cuaxochtli

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Yukitaka,
	The "o" of "axochtli" is short, and the "o" of "xochitl" is long.
John

On Feb 20, 2006, at 5:03 AM, Yukitaka Inoue Okubo wrote:

> Thank you for many suggestions.
> I'd like to have just one question for John.
> "Axochtli" (for ditch) in Northern Veracruz is related to flower 
> planting? For example, there are many flower field, or sometimes they 
> plant flowers around their houses?
> It seems interesting to think if "xochtli" (of "axochtli") just refer 
> to the boundary without relating to flowers, or if it has something to 
> do with "flower".
>
> Yukitaka
> takaio at po.aianet.ne.jp
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: <idiez at MAC.COM>
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> Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 7:12 AM
> Subject: Re: Cuaxochtli
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>
> I asked my students today if they have heard of
> cua/cuauh-xochitl/xochtli/xochihtli. First they said "cuauhxochitl",
> "flor de árbol", but then someone came up with the word "axochtli". It
> contains the -xochtli portion given at the beginning of this
> discussion, which allows us to depart from "flower".  Anyway in
> Northern Veracruz "axochtli" is a canal where water flows: it can
> either be an irrigation ditch in a field, or the drainage ditch (only
> about 4 or 5 inches wide and maybe 2 inches deep) which runs along the
> side of a house. Now for speculation: both presumably run along the
> side of something (a field or a house) and thus might refer to a
> boundary. Now, how does "cuahuitl" fit into this?
> John
>
> John Sullivan, Ph.D.
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> On Feb 17, 2006, at 2:58 PM, John F. Schwaller wrote:
>
>> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 12:06:48 -0800
>> Subject: Cuaxochtli
>> From: Karen Dakin <dakin at SERVIDOR.UNAM.MX>
>> To: <NAHUAT-L-request at LISTS.UMN.EDU>
>>
>>
>>
>> I remember hearing a discussion of cuaxochtli among ethnohistorians in
>> Mexico, and another possibility noted was that it is from cua-(witl) 
>> 'tree'
>> plus xoch- 'flower', because flowering trees were (and possibly still 
>> are)
>> boundary markers at times, since they are easily distinguished, at 
>> least
>> during the time they bloom.
>>
>> Karen Dakin
>>
> John Sullivan, Ph.D.
> Profesor de lengua y cultura nahua
> Unidad Académica de Idiomas
> Universidad Autónoma de Zacatecas
> Director
> Instituto de Docencia e Investigación Etnológica de Zacatecas, A.C.
> Tacuba 152, int. 47
> Centro Histórico
> Zacatecas, Zac. 98000
> México
> Oficina: +52 (492) 925-3415
> Fax: +52 (492) 925-3416
> Domicilio: +52 (492) 768-6048
> Celular: +52 (492) 544-5985
> idiez at mac.com
> www.idiez.org.mx
>
John Sullivan, Ph.D.
Profesor de lengua y cultura nahua
Unidad Académica de Idiomas
Universidad Autónoma de Zacatecas
Director
Instituto de Docencia e Investigación Etnológica de Zacatecas, A.C.
Tacuba 152, int. 47
Centro Histórico
Zacatecas, Zac. 98000
México
Oficina: +52 (492) 925-3415
Fax: +52 (492) 925-3416
Domicilio: +52 (492) 768-6048
Celular: +52 (492) 544-5985
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