Nahuatl Digest, Vol 117, Issue 11

[John Sullivan, Ph.D.]

Magnus,
	That makes a lot of sense. Aside from this possibility, the only uses  
of the verb ca/ye in Huastecan Nahuatl is with oncah, "there is/are",  
the -ti- compound -ticah/ticateh (present progressive tense), and  
perhaps cencah, "the same, equal".
	Other words are used in place of the ca/ye:
1. iitztoc, "estar" for humans and animals.
2. eltoc, "está" plants and things.
3. eli, "ser" is used in the same way as ca/ye to join a subject and a  
noun/adj in any tense except the present:
	nitlamachtihquetl, "I'm a teacher"
	nieliz nitlamachtihquetl, "I will be a teacher"
	nielqui nitlamachtihquet, "I was a teacher", etc., etc.,
John

On Feb 27, 2009, at 10:44 AM, magnus hansen wrote:

> Dear John Sullivan
>
> In Hueyapan nahuatl those same constructions exist except with the  
> vowel /e/ instead of /a/. lt seems to come from ye, the suppletive  
> form of cah. In this niyetok in this way is used as an equivalent of  
> spanish "estoy".
>
> Magnus Pharao Hansen
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "John Sullivan, Ph.D." <idiez at me.com>
> To: nahuatl at lists.famsi.org
> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 14:41:48 -0600
> Subject: [Nahuat-l] a question about "yatoc", not about Aztec
>
> Listeros,
> Here at the institute we have two interesting words.
>
> 1. niyatoc, "I am seated"
> 2. nicuatochyatoc, "I'm in a squatting position".
> It is not yahtoc, and therefore the root is not yauh, "to go" (but  
> see below). And I don't know if cuatochyatoc is
> cuatoch(in) + yatoc             or
> cuatochya + [t(i) + o + c]
>
> The second option perhaps suggest that the imperfect tense ya  
> morpheme and perhaps the inceptive -ya verbalizer and perhaps the  
> particle ya, "already" have a verbal origin. Yes, certain forms of  
> "to go" have a long vowel (the above yatoc does not), but that could  
> be because of the postulated older form of the class 4, yata, which  
> upon losing the -ta lengthened the preceding a.
> So.......... any ideas?
>
> John
>
> John Sullivan, Ph.D.
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