icelandic tl

Joost Kremers joostkremers at fastmail.fm
Wed Apr 21 06:20:24 UTC 2010


Hi all,

sorry about all the noise... Somewhere along the line, the headers in my email
are rewritten, causing rubbish to come out. I'm sending this email is ASCII,
which will hopefully make it to the list unharmed...

To anyone interested, this is what I wrote in my original email:

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Actually, to *my* ear (but who am I), the first -ll- sounds like a sequence of
[t] plus [l] (might be bisyllabic). Only the final -ll sounds like a voiceless
lateral plosive (affricate?) (which is my understanding of what Nahuatl tl is
pronounced like...)

Joost

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When it came back from the list, my original email contained the following
header:

Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64

When I sent the email, however, this header had a different value:

Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

The latter is actually correct. I have no idea why the header is being
rewritten, but if you change the 'base64' in the headers back to '8bit', the
email becomes readable again. (Well, on my system, anyway...)

Joost


On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 10:05:05AM +0100, wswilcox at blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
>    Hello to all who may be still interested,
>
>    I hope this will put an end to all the misleading descriptions of the
>    pronunciation of the Icelandic word. In this amusing little newsclip the
>    name of the glacier is pronounced clearly several times, nice and slowly.
>    It's definitely ['ejja-'fjatla-'joekytl] - as near as one can write it
>    phonetically in an e-mail.
>    The [tl] is certainly near enough identical to Nahuatl 'tl', evidently in
>    Icelandic ll, and nn are usually pronounced as unvoiced tl and tn .
>
>    [1]http://english.aljazeera.net/news/europe/2010/04/2010419171159919893.html
>
>    William 'Huilotl' Wilcox


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Joost Kremers
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