Off topic request for rights to republish form or guide in Spanish.
jdcomegys at cvip.net
jdcomegys at cvip.net
Thu Feb 7 18:33:23 UTC 2013
This is a little off topic. Does anyone have a sample request or form for permission to the rights to republish
illustrations in Spanish? Or know of a good writers guide in Spanish that would have sample forms or letters? I
know the rights and procedures are a little different from copyright law in the USA.
¿Hay alguien que tenga un formulario par pedir permiso a usar los derechos del autor para reeditar unos
illustraciones en español que sirve para UNAM en México o el Ministerio de Educación y Ciéncia?
Thanks, John Comegys jdcomegys at cvip.net
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Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2013 16:19:06 +0100
From: Susana Moraleda <susana at losrancheros.org>
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Subject: [Nahuat-l] CHIA and CHIYA
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Piyali listeros,
Por favor alguien podria hablarme del fenomeno de la "desaparicion de la
Y" en palabras como CHIA en vez de CHIYA, PIA en vez de PIYA, etc.?
Los diccionarios de Molina y de Simeon ignoran la Y, igual que Sullivan
en su gramatica, mientras que en el diccionario de Karttunen y en el
curso de Campbell aparece la Y.
Como llegò a desaparecer esta Y?
Gracias
Susana
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Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 11:42:13 -0500
From: Michael McCafferty <mmccaffe at indiana.edu>
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Subject: Re: [Nahuat-l] CHIA and CHIYA
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Hi, Susana,
There is always a wiser voice than mine to chime in, but from where I
stand the /y/ *is* there "chia". What we have is an orthographic
problem rather than a phonological one. This happened across the board
when European languages with their orthographical and phonological
mindsets encountered the "exotic" languages of the Americas. In your
cases, orthographic "chia" is in fact [chiya], and orthographic "pia"
is [piya].
I came across an interesting example of how Europeans spelled Native
words in "unusual" ways just the other day with an Illinois language
exclamation. The Jesuit missionary wrote it "ii8e".
The letter 8 can represent a number of things, mostly /w/, /oo/, but
even /o(o)w/ and /wa/.
So, what does ii8e represent? We're not sure of vowel length, but it
was something either /iiyoowe/ or /iyoowe/. ;-)
Michael
Quoting Susana Moraleda <susana at losrancheros.org>:
> Piyali listeros,
> Por favor alguien podria hablarme del fenomeno de la "desaparicion de
> la Y" en palabras como CHIA en vez de CHIYA, PIA en vez de PIYA, etc.?
> Los diccionarios de Molina y de Simeon ignoran la Y, igual que
> Sullivan en su gramatica, mientras que en el diccionario de Karttunen
> y en el curso de Campbell aparece la Y.
>
> Como llegò a desaparecer esta Y?
>
> Gracias
> Susana
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