Actual/Target IPA

Wed Feb 7 11:45:05 UTC 2024

Dear Yvan,

Thanks a lot. And I am glad this could be useful to others.
I will try this. And yes, I don't see any problems with switching the
position of the two symbols.

Best regards,
Abdel

On Wed, 7 Feb 2024 at 11:49, Yvan Rose <yvan.rose at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Abdel,
> Because your examples are not confidential, and because the answer to your
> question may be useful to more people, I brought back the conversation to
> the public forum.
>
> In a nutshell, if you put the length mark after the hanging diacritic
> everything works perfectly. Examples:
>
> rˤzmasakʷː
> itˤːar
>
> It's possible that this breaks from transcription standards you have for
> your language, but I cannot anticipate analytic issues with this approach.
> We all must remember that transcription standards used for different
> languages are not always easy or even logical to support in computer
> programs.
>
> I hope you find this all useful!
>
> Kind regards,
> Yvan
>
> On Feb 6, 2024, at 6:27 AM, mobchar at gmail.com wrote:
>
> Hi again everyone,
>
> So I realized (as mentioned on the website) that some diacritic
> combinations cause problems (e.g., length followed by pharyngealization or
> labialization in my case). On the website manual, it mentions that this
> might occur depending on the font (I tried to change it a few times but no
> luck!). This issue impacts my analyses. The words containing such diacritic
> combinations also disappear when converting back to CHA format. Is there a
> way to work around this?
>
> Best
> Abdel
>
> On Tuesday 30 January 2024 at 15:11:35 UTC+1 mobchar at gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi Greg,
>>
>> This is so nice of you. I appreciate the effort and I really hope this
>> helps other people in the future. It worked perfectly.
>>
>> Many thanks
>> Abdel
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 29 Jan 2024 at 13:48, Greg Hedlund <greg.h... at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Abdel,
>>>
>>> I've created a script which will copy %pho to %mod when %mod is empty.
>>>
>>> 1) You may download this script from here:
>>> https://gist.github.com/ghedlund/0fc0c5b1b44cf83093cac243a0994087.
>>> Choose 'Download ZIP' and then extract the contents of the downloaded file.
>>>
>>> 2) In Phon, open your project and select 'Tools -> PhonShell' from the
>>> window menu.  From the PhonShell window menu choose 'File -> Run script'
>>> and select the file CopyPhoToMod.groovy from step 1.
>>>
>>> 3) Select the sessions you wish to modify and click 'Ok'.  Once
>>> completed you should see 'Done' printed in the window.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> -Greg
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2024-01-27 6:24 a.m., mob... at gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I did my transcription in CHAT and assumed that I should use the %mod
>>> line (=target) only when the %pho line (=actual) does not meet the target.
>>> Now after moving to Phon, I realized I'll always need both Target and
>>> Actual transcriptions (right?).
>>>
>>> It will be a pain to go back and fix the %mod lines of all 5 hours of
>>> recordings I have :) so If there is any way I can let Phon know that it
>>> should take 'Actual IPA' as 'Target IPA' in case 'Actual IPA' is missing,
>>> that would save tons of work.
>>>
>>> I hope i am making sense.
>>>
>>> Many thanks in advance,
>>> Abdel
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