[RNLD List] Timeframes for Dictionaries

Harley Dunolly-Lee harley.dunollylee123 at gmail.com
Wed May 26 05:40:09 UTC 2021


Heyy thank you for your feedback.

Sounds like it will take awhile. I appreciate this :)

On Thu, 20 May 2021, 6:23 pm Jane Simpson, <jansimps at gmail.com> wrote:

> Good list from Jacqui.
> I'd just add
> Take a word, time how long it takes you to write a definition for that
> word with all the information that you want to give about it in the
> dictionary.
>  Then multiply that  time by the number of words you think you have.
> Then double that time for.. deciding that you need to make a particular
> change across all the entries,
> And maybe triple it for finding your software doesn't work properly,
> Quadruple it for doing an English finder list   (and all the discoveries
> you make along the way that mean you then change your earlier entries).
> And add in extra time for writing the introductory material, getting
> photographs of the people who worked on the dictionary or who provided
> material, getting a good map etc.....  deciding on a cover picture...
>
>
> On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 3:06 PM Jacqui Cook <linguist at irrawangga.org.au>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Harley,
>>
>>
>>
>> It depends on the community and on how far along you are in understanding
>> the language and getting the material together. Several years for most
>> cases, in my experience! A few key questions that will help you to estimate
>> how much further you have to go:
>>
>>
>>
>>    1. Have you had community workshops to decide how you’re going to
>>    write it down?
>>    2. Do you have recordings or are you working off old wordlists? It’s
>>    much easier to know what sounds are in the language if you have at least
>>    some recordings.
>>    3. Do you have all the words written out using a community approved
>>    writing system? This can take a surprising amount of time!
>>    4. Have you figured out what grammatical information you have and
>>    what is missing? If you have a lot missing, are you going to talk to TOs of
>>    related languages about borrowing some of their grammatical material?
>>    5. Do you know how the grammar works or are you still analysing it?
>>
>>
>>
>> We have been 2 years doing just a dictionary reprint in sound for 2 of
>> the languages here! So it can definitely take time...
>>
>>
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Jacqui Cook*
>>
>> Linguist, Bundiyarra - Irra Wangga Language Centre
>>
>> p: 08 9920 7900| e: linguist at irrawangga.org.au | w: www.bundiyarra.com
>> <https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bundiyarra.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cmaia.ponsonnet%40uwa.edu.au%7C07df0fc7556c48f255db08d827a571c7%7C05894af0cb2846d8871674cdb46e2226%7C1%7C0%7C637302938825906677&sdata=aqpIUkC%2FUOUozNmd1EH61ll6wHfqmJR1rQ6CAKR9E5w%3D&reserved=0>
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>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Harley Dunolly-Lee <harley.dunollylee123 at gmail.com>
>> *Sent: *Thursday, 20 May 2021 12:58 PM
>> *To: *resource-network-linguistic-diversity at listserv.linguistlist.org
>> *Subject: *[RNLD List] Timeframes for Dictionaries
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello fellow speech crafts
>>
>>
>>
>> I am emailing to ask what is the average timeframe for a dictionary word
>> list including grammar for languages that are sleeping??
>>
>>
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