conclusion relation

[Juliano Desiderato Antonio]

Hi all of you again and thank you for the discussion. 
In my analysis, the ".. THEN he doesn't need the theory, .. he doesn't need maths." portion is the nucleus and it is a conclusion that the speaker came to after analysing the fact that ".. the guy puts integrals wherever he wants, .. and does whatever he wants the way he wants,". In other words, what I think is that the satellite leads the speaker to a conclusion, which is expressed in the nucleus.
On the other hand, I think that CAUSE/ RESULT relations are used when one event causes another or one event is a result of another.
Do you think that such a distinction be helpful?
Juliano



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De: Maite Taboada <mtaboada at SFU.CA>
Para: RSTLIST at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG
Enviadas: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:28:43 -0300 (BRT)
Assunto: Re: [RST-LIST] conclusion relation

Hi Juliano,

Thanks for the interesting example. I'm wondering why a result relation 
is not appropriate here. Is it because you think the "he doesn't need 
the theory" part is the nucleus? If so, why not cause either?

- Maite


Juliano Desiderato Antonio wrote:
> Hi.
> In Brazilian Portuguese, words like "então" (then) and "logo" (so) are used
> to signal a relation of conclusion, as in the following example:
>
> ..  o cara pega e bota a integral onde ele quer,
> .. e faz tudo que ele quer do jeito que ele quer, 
> .. então não precisa de teoria,
> .. num precisa de matemática,
>
> .. the guy puts integrals wherever he wants,
> .. and does whatever he wants the way he wants,
> .. THEN he doesn't need the theory,
> .. he doesn't need maths.
>
> Actually, it has been very difficult to find a RST relation for cases like
> this. So, I have been thinking of creating a new relation like "conclusion".
> I'd like to hear from you about that.
> Yours,
> Juliano
>   

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