Fw: dative + adverb constructions
Andrew Jameson
a.jameson at dial.pipex.com
Tue Apr 13 20:28:01 UTC 1999
Reply to Oksana please
> From: Oksana Fedotova <O.Fedotova at btinternet.com>
> To: a.jameson at dial.pipex.com
> Subject: Re: dative + adverb constructions
> Date: 13 April 1999 18:37
>
> I still think it's an adverb, because it refers to the (missing) verb 'to
> be', check this by changing into past and future tenses. Mne [est'] ploxo -
> vchera mne bylo ploxo - mne sejchas budet ploxo. Exactly in the same way
> as 'segodnya [est'] xolodno', 'vchera bylo xolodno', zavtra budet xolodno.
>
> I don't know about Lithuanian, but Latvian constructions (the grammar of
> which is quite close to Russian) reflect this: Man ir slikti - (mne est'
> ploxo) - man bija slikti (past) - man bus slikti (future).
>
> Oksana Fedotova.
>
>
> > ----------
> > > From: Jules Levin <jflevin at ucrac1.ucr.edu>
> > > To: SEELANGS at CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
> > > Subject: Re: dative + adverb constructions
> > > Date: 12 April 1999 21:39
> > >
> > > At 02:07 PM 4/12/99 -0400, you wrote:
> > > Are we missing
> > > >something here? Is the concept of adverb different with regard Russian
> > > >than English? Or is this "khorosho" a short form predicate adjective?
> I'd
> > > >very much appreciate any thoughts on this off-line.
> > >
> > > I think Lithuanian is instructive here, since its syntax can parallel
> > > Slavic turns in an interesting way. The Dative construction uses what
> is
> > > probably historically a neuter "short form", although the neuter is
> lost:
> > > man gera = mne xorosho. The endings are cognates. But the true adverb
> > > remains different in form: gerai dirba = xorosho rabotaet
> > > In short, the adjectival forms in Dat impersonal constructions are NOT
> > > adverbs.
> > >
> > > Jules Levin
> >
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