textbook recommendation

pyz at PANIX.COM pyz at PANIX.COM
Fri Aug 18 16:37:54 UTC 2000


>
>  I said it was _never_ an insult. It was the name for the place, and

It was the name for a territory of the Russian Empire,
consequently "the" was appropriate.

Is it still appropriate now?

> allegiance or possession had nothing to with it. What you are listening to
> is a descriptive grammarian who tried to make rules so non-native speakers
> could more quickly use, or not use, "the" in most cases.


> Genevra Gerhart
>
> http://www.wolfenet.com/~ggerhart
> New email address: ggerhart at home.com
> 206-329-0053


Max Pyziur                                     BRAMA - Gateway Ukraine
pyz at brama.com                                  http://www.brama.com/
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> >
> > Yeay, Tsuji!
> > who said, "you cannot persuade politically or emotionally motivated
> people."
> > Absolutely right! They do not understand that the meaning of a word is its
> > use.
> > Thus, the Japanese rightfully complain about the word "Jap" because the
> word
> > _was_ used as an insult.
> > The Ukrainians wrongfully complain because "the Ukraine" was _never_ an
> > insult, it was merely the name for the place.
>
> "The Ukraine" was appropriate when it was a territory of the Russian Empire.
>
> Are you saying it still is?
>
> > Genevra Gerhart
> >
> > http://www.wolfenet.com/~ggerhart
> > New email address: ggerhart at home.com
> > 206-329-0053
>
>
>
> Max Pyziur                                     BRAMA - Gateway Ukraine
> pyz at brama.com                                  http://www.brama.com/
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