Adoption Criteria for Current Russian Elementary School Readers
Gordon Ross
gfross at PACBELL.NET
Mon Mar 1 01:56:39 UTC 2004
Who is it that decides which readers in the Russian language and literature
are appropriate for each grade level in Russian elementary schools
nowadays?
What are the criteria for adoption: vocabulary? syntax? subject matter?
Whom could I contact (by email, preferably) for additional information about
this? Thanks!
Gordon Ross (an English/ESL teacher who is learning to read Russian by
self-study)
City College of San Francisco
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Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 11:19:56 +0300
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From: Bryon <bryon at ONLINE.RU>
Subject: Re: Toasts
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Thanks for the thoughtful response, Alina.
Over the last several days I've been asking friends here (native speakers) in person, and by e-mail, the same question that lead to all the feedback. Interestingly, at first, about half said that "na" was OK as a toast. Then, once they thought about it, they said it wasn't. The consensus Saturday at a housewarming party (where no one used "na"!) was that "na" is sometimes used in toasts, only improperly -- the influence of outside forces, marriages and cultures, on the language.
Then again, this is Moscow, where it is now considered acceptable to order "odno kofe."
Bryon
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From: Alina Israeli
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Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2004 5:53 AM
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Toasts
>What, then, is factually correct? I, too, would be interested
>to know. I've been living in Russia continuously since 1996,
>and I've had many opportunities to listen to, and make,
>toasts. "Na" is almost always used -- even if, as you say,
>it's wrong to do so. I've never once heard "za" used without
>a pronoun.
You don't have to have "za" in some cases, you can simply say "Vashe
zdorov'e!" But "zdorov'e" toast is the only one which allows the
preposition omission. You cannot omit it in any of the following (or any
other ones I could think of with a noun in them):
Za prekrasnyx dam!
Za xozjajku doma!
Za imeninnika!
Za skorejshee okonhanie [of whatever]!
and so on, whatever the occasion (if there is one).
The original syntactic construction is "podnjat' tost za + Acc" or "vypit'
za". The latter one was used in the title of a play by Zhuxovickij "Vyp'em
za Kolumba!"
If they say "na zdorov'e" while drinking, they are mimicking the use of
this phrase while eating (and obviously mocking it), which roughly means
'it's good for you' which is usually a reply to a thank you at or after the
meal. This mocking use implies that drinking is good for you.
"Na zdorov'e" could also mean 'as you please, I don't care/none of my
problems'. For ex. as in the following dialog:
- I reshila poexat' navestit' syna.
- Nu i ezzhajte na zdorov'e. (Mne-to kakoe delo?)
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Alina Israeli
LFS, American University
4400 Mass. Ave., NW
Washington, DC 20016
phone: (202) 885-2387
fax: (202) 885-1076
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