Hoch mir nicht kein chainik
Steve Seegmiller
seegmillerm at MAIL.MONTCLAIR.EDU
Wed Nov 21 17:52:48 UTC 2007
My ex-wife's family used this expression; they were from one of those places that used to be part of Russia but is now in eastern Poland, so apparently the expression is more widespread than the Baltic countries.
Steve Seegmiller
----- Original Message -----
From: Deborah Hoffman <lino59 at AMERITECH.NET>
Date: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:33 am
Subject: [SEELANGS] google/who is a Slavic speaker
> Sorry - kayin is "chew" in Yiddish run through a Carpathian accent
> (as opposed to the one taught by the proper folks at YIVO).
>
> I don't know whether kayin is the most proper transliteration,
> but there is more of a vowel separation/second syllable there than
> is heard in the German kein. Ka-in? With the "ah" turning slightly
> "ee" before it completely gets to the second vowel?
>
> I've wondered about the double negative. One hears "Hoch mir
> nicht kein chainik" (Don't bang my kettle/rattle my cage") but it
> may be regional. Any Litvaks out there?
>
>
> >Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 17:33:16 -0500
> >From: "colkitto at rogers.com" <colkitto at ROGERS.COM>
> >Subject: Re: to google/should be who is a Slavic speaker?
> >
> >Isn't "kayin" rather "kauen" - chew (cognate with zhevat, of course)?
> >
> >"nicht kein" would sound very odd in German, and I suspect,
> Yiddish as
> >well
> >
> >Original Message:
> >>-----------------
> >>
> >>te: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:14:20 -0600
> >>To: SEELANGS at BAMA.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] to google/should be "who is a Slavic speaker?"
> >>Except that "kayin" is a negative (akin to nikakoi in Russian)
> and not
> > a verb...
> >>So it should probably stay where it is, modifying "chooingam"...
>
>
>
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