a possibly minority position
Jerry Katsell
jerry3 at ROADRUNNER.COM
Tue Apr 1 14:32:31 UTC 2008
Geoff,
Geoff, "Hajzl" probably does come from the German. It's vulgar in Czech, and
sometimes applied to naughty children by rough and ready parents: "Ty jseš
hajzl!" "Záchod" is standard; "toaleta" perhaps for a hotel lavatory;
"záchodek" for a country outhouse; and perhaps "koupelna" for a bathroom
with toilet and bidet included-the bathtub being the "koupel". Are there
others, in Brno specifically?
Will, The next time I'm in a London pub I'll be sure not to ask for "the
little boy's room." On "nuzhnik"-didn't the great Derzhavin when visiting
Tsarskoe Selo ask someone, Pushkin or another litseist, "Gde, bratets,
nuzhnik?" Probably an apocryphal event, but piquant in its own way.
Jerry Katsell
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If we're talking about Reger, the secondary source is Slonimsky's Dictionary
of Musical Invective, quoting Reger as follows: "Ich sitze in dem kleinsten
Zimmer in meinem Hause. Ich habe Ihre Kritik vor mir. Im naechsten
Augenblick wird sie hinter mir sein." (On the web at
http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Strasse/1945/WSB/reger.html)
By the way, is there any equivalent in Russian to Czech "hajzl" (which as a
non-expert I have always assumed comes from Austrian German "haeusl") for
the lavatory? Not exactly a euphemism though, and it's used pretty widely
as a personal insult as well.
Geoff
Geoffrey Chew
Institute of Musicology, Masaryk University, Brno
chewg at seznam.cz
Department of Music, Royal Holloway, University of London
g.chew at rhul.ac.uk
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It doesn't sound at all like Johnson to me. A quick look at Google shows
attributions to several anons, Max Reger, Winston Churchill, Noel
Coward, George Bernard Shaw, G. K. Chesterton and Voltaire, none with a
verifiable reference. One Reger citation does give the recipient and
date (Rudolph Louis, 1906) - but I would have been more convinced if it
had been quoted in German. Sounds like one of those general purpose
witticisms.
Will Ryan
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