a possibly minority position

[jdingley at YORKU.CA]

Hi,

Czech hajzl < (Austrian) German Häus(e)l

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John Dingley

Quoting Jerry Katsell <jerry3 at ROADRUNNER.COM>:

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> Geoff, "Hajzl" probably does come from the German. It's vulgar in Czech, and
> sometimes applied to naughty children by rough and ready parents: "Ty jse¹
> hajzl!" "Záchod" is standard; "toaleta" perhaps for a hotel lavatory;
> "záchodek" for a country outhouse; and perhaps "koupelna" for a bathroom
> with toilet and bidet included-the bathtub being the "koupel". Are there
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> Will, The next time I'm in a London pub I'll be sure not to ask for "the
> little boy's room." On "nuzhnik"-didn't the great Derzhavin when visiting
> Tsarskoe Selo ask someone, Pushkin or another litseist, "Gde, bratets,
> nuzhnik?" Probably an apocryphal event, but piquant in its own way.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: SEELANGS: Slavic & East European Languages and Literatures list
> [mailto:SEELANGS at BAMA.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Chew G
> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 11:15 PM
> To: SEELANGS at BAMA.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] a possibly minority position
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> If we're talking about Reger, the secondary source is Slonimsky's Dictionary
> of Musical Invective, quoting Reger as follows: "Ich sitze in dem kleinsten
> Zimmer in meinem Hause. Ich habe Ihre Kritik vor mir. Im naechsten
> Augenblick wird sie hinter mir sein."  (On the web at
> http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Strasse/1945/WSB/reger.html)
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> By the way, is there any equivalent in Russian to Czech "hajzl" (which as a
> non-expert I have always assumed comes from Austrian German "haeusl") for
> the lavatory?  Not exactly a euphemism though, and it's used pretty widely
> as a personal insult as well.
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>  Geoffrey Chew
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>  Institute of Musicology, Masaryk University, Brno
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>  Department of Music, Royal Holloway, University of London
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>  g.chew at rhul.ac.uk
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> From: SEELANGS: Slavic & East European Languages and Literatures list on
> behalf of William Ryan
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> It doesn't sound at all like Johnson to me. A quick look at Google shows
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> attributions to several anons, Max Reger, Winston Churchill, Noel
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> Coward, George Bernard Shaw, G. K. Chesterton and Voltaire, none with a
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> Will Ryan
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