Cyrillic encodings

Tue Apr 1 15:11:55 UTC 2008

Thanks for the good advice, David.  Yes, UTF-8 is a good solution, 
though my university-supplied mail program stunningly lacks the 
ability to tweak the encoding (either inbound or outbound), so I 
should probably replace it.  I think we are scheduled to move to 
Outlook soon, which would be an improvement.

Firefox and other browsers provide the capability of changing the 
encoding, so I pop open SEELANGS postings in two places, hoping for 
the best, though still around a third of the Cyrillic text is garbled 
(undoubtedly due to the issue of the differently-encoded outbound 
postings).  Hence my call for Latin transliteration, though I realize 
it's extra effort for everybody.  I enjoy this list, so I don't want 
to miss anything!

Cheers,

Phil

At 09:09 AM 4/1/2008, David Powelstock wrote:
>Hi, Robert (and all),
>
>I'm not very familiar with email programs other than Outlook, which 
>is what I use, but there should be a separate setting (somewhere!) 
>for the encoding your program will use to *compose* emails. 
>('Automatic,' I think, must refer to how your program *decodes* 
>incoming messages.)
>
>Cheers,
>David
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: SEELANGS: Slavic & East European Languages and Literatures 
>list [mailto:SEELANGS at BAMA.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Robert Chandler
>Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 3:22 AM
>To: SEELANGS at BAMA.UA.EDU
>Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Cyrillic encodings
>
>So are you saying I should always set 'Character Set' in my email 
>programme to 'UTF-8' rather than to 'Automatic'? This won't cause 
>other problems?
>
>Best Wishes,
>
>Robert
>
>
>
>
> > Yes, and to the extend your computer savvy (or that of someone you
> > know) allows, please try to set your keyboard and email programs to
> > use UTF-8 ("8-bit Unicode"). This is the standard toward which
> > everything is going, and so you'd be doing yourself (and everyone
> > else!) a favor by moving toward it.
> >
> > Best wishes to all,
> > David
> >
> > David Powelstock
> > Asst. Prof. of Russian & East European Literatures Chair, Program in
> > Russian & East European Studies Brandeis University GRALL, MS 024
> > Waltham, MA  02454-9110
> > 781.736.3347 (Office)
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: SEELANGS: Slavic & East European Languages and Literatures list
> > [mailto:SEELANGS at BAMA.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Philip Robinson
> > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 11:18 AM
> > To: SEELANGS at BAMA.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] a possibly minority position
> >
> > While we're on this subject, I am probably not the first person to
> > make this request on SEELANGS, but it would be most helpful if those
> > who post something in Cyrillic would also  provide a Latin
> > transliteration.  As much as I prefer to read Russian and other
> > languages in Cyrillic, about a third of the Cyrillic text in SEELANGS
> > postings does not render correctly, and I use a variety of web-based
> > and fat-client email readers with different encoding schemes to 
> try to parse them.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Phil Robinson
> >
> > At 09:08 PM 3/30/2008, you wrote:
> >> Dustin Hosseini wrote:
> >>
> >>> John,
> >>> Could you transliterate the Russian words?  They came out garbled;
> >>> or at least on my end they are all question marks ????
> >>
> >> Not your fault.
> >>
> >> John's Outlook Express 6 sent his message with the following
> >> parameters (I've omitted the irrelevant parts):
> >>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >>
> >> Seven-bit encoding will always convert Cyrillic to question marks,
> >> and the information is cannot be recovered at the receiving end.
> >>
> >> I have no idea why OE decided that this message required only Western
> >> encoding, and 7-bit to boot -- I don't use the program. Sorry.
> >>
> >> --
> >> War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
> >> --
> >> Paul B. Gallagher
> >> pbg translations, inc.
> >> "Russian Translations That Read Like Originals"
> >> http://pbg-translations.com
> >>
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