kuda tsar' peshkom xodil

[Long, Michael]

I've always heard the expression with the unidirectional verb and with 'dazhe' added: kuda dazhe tsar' idet peshkom.


-----Original Message-----
From: SEELANGS: Slavic & East European Languages and Literatures list on behalf of Olga Meerson
Sent: Thu 4/3/2008 10:39 AM
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Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] kuda tsar' peshkom xodil
 
I heard it in the present. But the verb has definitely to be multidirectional, and so it was: kuda tsar' peshkom xodit. Alinushka, your version is politically updated but my experience still uncluded the present tense verb--and I am your generation, not older.
o.m.

----- Original Message -----
From: Frans Suasso <Franssuasso at HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Thursday, April 3, 2008 10:24 am
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] kuda tsar' peshkom xodil

> You are right. Sunce the revolution Russians would use the past tense.
> 
> Frans Suasso
> 
> 
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> From: "Alina Israeli" <aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU>
> To: <SEELANGS at BAMA.UA.EDU>
> Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 5:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] kuda tsar' peshkom xodil
> 
> 
> The actual expression is kuda tsar' peshkom xodil: http://
> www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%
> 3Aofficial&q=%22%D0%BA%D1%83%D0%B4%D0%B0+%D1%86%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%8C+%D0%
> BF%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BC%22&btnG=Search
> 
> Not that I could find anything to that effect in Tom Lehrer.
> 
> On Apr 3, 2008, at 9:35 AM, Deborah Hoffman wrote:
> 
> > This is an actual expression? And here all these years I thought  
> Tom 
> > Lehrer had made it up (in "Lobachevsky").
> >
> >> Date:    Wed, 2 Apr 2008 14:21:53 -0400
> >> From:    "Pendergast, J. Mr DFL" <John.Pendergast at USMA.EDU>
> >> Subject: Re: two fashion terms
> >>
> >> Apropos of the "toilet" P.S. below - and apologies if this one  
> already>> came up in prior discussion - but a phrase that I always 
> liked that I
> >> have heard among military colleagues (and which at least one 
> civilian>> colleague met with a wince) is "idu tuda, kuda tsar' 
> idyot peshkom."
> >> (èäó òóäà, êóäà öàðü èä¸ò ïåøêîì)
> 
> 
> Alina Israeli
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