Novyj god

[Elena Denisova]

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please check this article: 
 
http://spravka.gramota.ru/blang.html?id=154
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Dr. Elena Denisova-Schmidt, MBA 
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www.elena-denisova-schmidt.de > Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 03:25:36 -0800> From: margarita at RENT-A-MIND.COM> Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Novyj god> To: SEELANGS at BAMA.UA.EDU> > >> >> The rule is more general: a nominative proper phrase has only the > >> first noun capitalized, e. g., Novyj god, zhural "Novyj mir", > >> Oktiabr'skaja revoliucia, gazeta "Za nashu Sovetskuju Rodinu" (both > >> last nouns were capitalized as a result of atheism;0> >> > OK, that makes sense.> >> > But how do you explain Российская Федерация with capital Ф? I don't > > remember the last time I saw it with a small ф...> >> > And how about «Государственная Дума Федерального Собрания РФ» > > <http://www.duma.gov.ru/> and «Совет Безопасности РФ» > > <http://www.scrf.gov.ru/>, but «Счетная палата РФ» > > <http://www.ach.gov.ru/> and «Центральная избирательная комиссия РФ» > > <http://www.cikrf.ru/>?> >> > How about «Парламентская Ассамблея Совета Европы»?> >> > And what rule governs «День Конституции РФ»?> > > Those are the rules of "atheism", basically. What I mean supporting the > "atheism" joke is the search of some sacredness in the civil life as > well as in the notion of human, featured by the French and Russian > successful revolutions to replace for God. So, capitalization of some > nouns may be seen as a sign of veneration to the point of sacredness.> > But it is just a tendency; there are no rules about what should be > considered as sacred. Nowadays the tendency is broadening: maybe > people want more sacredness, at least, in the orthographic area... Or > Putin's government wants them to be more respectful.> > Your instances may be explained this way:> > > «Государственная Дума Федерального Собрания РФ»> Государственная - all coming from the state is sacred;> Дума - historically sacred, probably from the times of Ivan the > Terrible;> Федерального - recently "верхи" forced the feelings of awe on people;> Собрания - historically sacred (taken in this particular sense).> > > «День Конституции РФ»> День - the first noun of the proper noun phrase> Конституции - sacred from the Stalin times; when Googling, "Конституция > 1905" and alike gets about 50% -50% capitalized - non-capitalized > responses, depending on the attitude of the writers toward the thing.> РСФСР / РФ - the capitalization is supported by frequent abbreviating: > it is not desirable to have mixt letters in an abbreviation. But the > sacredness can be felt, too. In 1930-s, and in Russian emigree > publications you can still encounter ф-;> > > Совет Безопасности РФ> Совет - the first word> Безопасности - recently "верхи" forced the feelings of awe on people.> > Other your examples have fewer sacred words, evidently.> > In my opinion, «Парламентская Ассамблея Совета Европы» should be > «Парламентская ассамблея Совета Европы». Though i may feel this way > because i do not have that specific emotion of awe of the assembly. > However, the analogy with the sacred Собрание and respect to Europians > ("низкопоклонство перед Западом" :) can play some role, too. Probably, > that is why they have capitalized Ассамблею.> > It is even possible to count on a google-like statistic research to > figure out the attitude of (well-read) Russians toward some > instututions according to the tendency of capitalization.> I recall a similar coursework that was done at Russian Dept. of > "Казахского педагогического института" (though abbreviated as "КазПИ" > ;) in 1980-s.> > Margarita A Orlova> Graduate Student in Linguistics, SJSU> PhD in Russian> http://rent-a-mind.com/margarita/> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------> Use your web browser to search the archives, control your subscription> options, and more. Visit and bookmark the SEELANGS Web Interface at:> http://seelangs.home.comcast.net/> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
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