Novyj god

[Margarita Orlova]

The immense variety of what to consider as sacred on gramota.ru can be  
explained by the changing societal ideas on that matter. So, no rule is  
the today rule. But the orthographical tendency is the same.

Margarita A Orlova
Graduate Student in Linguistics, SJSU
PhD in Russian
http://rent-a-mind.com/margarita/

On Sunday, January 6, 2008, at 05:50  AM, Elena Denisova wrote:

>
> Hello,
>
> please check this article:
>
> http://spravka.gramota.ru/blang.html?id=154
> Best wishes
> Dr. Elena Denisova-Schmidt, MBA
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> www.elena-denisova-schmidt.de > Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 03:25:36 -0800>  
> From: margarita at RENT-A-MIND.COM> Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Novyj god>  
> To: SEELANGS at BAMA.UA.EDU> > >> >> The rule is more general: a  
> nominative proper phrase has only the > >> first noun capitalized, e.  
> g., Novyj god, zhural "Novyj mir", > >> Oktiabr'skaja revoliucia,  
> gazeta "Za nashu Sovetskuju Rodinu" (both > >> last nouns were  
> capitalized as a result of atheism;0> >> > OK, that makes sense.> >> >  
> But how do you explain Российская Федерация with capital Ф? I don't >  
> > remember the last time I saw it with a small ф...> >> > And how  
> about «Государственная Дума Федерального Собрания РФ» > >  
> <http://www.duma.gov.ru/> and «Совет Безопасности РФ» > >  
> <http://www.scrf.gov.ru/>, but «Счетная палата РФ» > >  
> <http://www.ach.gov.ru/> and «Центральная избирательная комиссия РФ» >  
> > <http://www.cikrf.ru/>?> >> > How about «Парламентская Ассамблея  
> Совета Европы»?> >> > And what rule governs «День Конституции РФ»?> >  
> > Those are the rules of "atheism", basically. What I mean supporting  
> the > "atheism" joke is the search of some sacredness in the civil  
> life as > well as in the notion of human, featured by the French and  
> Russian > successful revolutions to replace for God. So,  
> capitalization of some > nouns may be seen as a sign of veneration to  
> the point of sacredness.> > But it is just a tendency; there are no  
> rules about what should be > considered as sacred. Nowadays the  
> tendency is broadening: maybe > people want more sacredness, at least,  
> in the orthographic area... Or > Putin's government wants them to be  
> more respectful.> > Your instances may be explained this way:> > >  
> «Государственная Дума Федерального Собрания РФ»> Государственная - all  
> coming from the state is sacred;> Дума - historically sacred, probably  
> from the times of Ivan the > Terrible;> Федерального - recently  
> "верхи" forced the feelings of awe on people;> Собрания - historically  
> sacred (taken in this particular sense).> > > «День Конституции РФ»>  
> День - the first noun of the proper noun phrase> Конституции - sacred  
> from the Stalin times; when Googling, "Конституция > 1905" and alike  
> gets about 50% -50% capitalized - non-capitalized > responses,  
> depending on the attitude of the writers toward the thing.> РСФСР / РФ  
> - the capitalization is supported by frequent abbreviating: > it is  
> not desirable to have mixt letters in an abbreviation. But the >  
> sacredness can be felt, too. In 1930-s, and in Russian emigree >  
> publications you can still encounter ф-;> > > Совет Безопасности РФ>  
> Совет - the first word> Безопасности - recently "верхи" forced the  
> feelings of awe on people.> > Other your examples have fewer sacred  
> words, evidently.> > In my opinion, «Парламентская Ассамблея Совета  
> Европы» should be > «Парламентская ассамблея Совета Европы». Though i  
> may feel this way > because i do not have that specific emotion of awe  
> of the assembly. > However, the analogy with the sacred Собрание and  
> respect to Europians > ("низкопоклонство перед Западом" :) can play  
> some role, too. Probably, > that is why they have capitalized  
> Ассамблею.> > It is even possible to count on a google-like statistic  
> research to > figure out the attitude of (well-read) Russians toward  
> some > instututions according to the tendency of capitalization.> I  
> recall a similar coursework that was done at Russian Dept. of >  
> "Казахского педагогического института" (though abbreviated as "КазПИ"  
> > ;) in 1980-s.> > Margarita A Orlova> Graduate Student in  
> Linguistics, SJSU> PhD in Russian> http://rent-a-mind.com/margarita/>  
> > > >  
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