: cr âŕ15Fm

[Sandor Foldvari]

Dear Colleagues involved in Slavic loan-words in Ce-European languages, 
As Rumanian crisma is a loan-word from Slavonic, the Hungarian korcsma, kocsma is one of Slavonic origin, too. 
Let me propose to your attention (with further references as well)

 Kniezsa, István (1898-1965)  
Title: A magyar nyelv szláv jövevényszavai / Slavic Loan-words in Hungarian
ETO: 809.451.1-316.3:808.2  
Edition: 2nd, reviewed  
Editor: Budapest : Akadémiai Kiadó, 1974  
Volumes: 2 (581; 1043 p.) ; 21 cm  
Summary: in Russian and German
ISBN: 963-05-0413-8 |963-05-0414-6-1 |963 05 0415 4  

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Sandor Foldvari, research fellow; cell-phone 36-30-4332353 
Debrecen Univ. Baltic Studies; - home: H-3301 EGER-1, P.O.B. 422.
KÉREM, N E LEGYEN BENNE LEVÉLSZÖVEGEM A VÁLASZBAN! Köszönöm.
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augerot <bigjim at U.WASHINGTON.EDU> írta: 

 


> The Dictionarul limbii romane moderne gives the two, crâŕ15Fmŕ103 and cârciumŕ103, and all their derivatives as equivalent, preferring the latter as the literary form and implying that the former is a dialectal variant. I would suspect, looking at the Slavic cognates, that crâŕ15Fmŕ103 would occur where the Bulgarians and Romanians meet along the Danube and in the Delta area.
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> jim a. 
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> On Wed, 12 Aug 2009, Kathryn Cassidy wrote:
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> > Thank you for your replies. I still have a bit of a query relating to the Romanian word crâŕ15Fmŕ103 though. Whilst I understand that cârciumŕ103 is related, in some regions, crâŕ15Fmŕ103 is used and not cârciumŕ103. There are then various words derived from this and the village bar owner and his wife for example often be known as crâŕ15Fmŕ103r and crâŕ15Fmŕ103riŕ163ŕ103. I'm trying to understand if this is just a regional derivation from cârciumŕ103 or whether the word has a different root entirely. All the etymological resources I have for Romanian are clear on the root for cârciumŕ103 but not crâŕ15Fmŕ103. Any further suggestions would be appreciated!
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> > Kathryn Cassidy
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> > Someone asked about the "tavern" word Rus. , Bulg. , Rom. cârciumŕ103, and I deleted it. Yes, these are all related but their source is cloudy, some say they are related to the Cz krkati 'drink' , others to the German Krug 'stein'. In all these languages it is a pleasant place to be on a hot summer's day. Cheers!
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