НА: [SEELANGS] НА: crâşm� �

[Kathryn Cassidy]

Actually, it occurs just as much in Moldova and Bucovina, which is the area I was referring to. Everything points to it being just a dialectical variation, along with carcima (which I never heard). Most of my Moldovan and Romanian friends said they would simply use the two interchangeably and didn't have any particular preference for one or the other in the modern language, although the dictionaries certainly point to carciuma as being the more literary variant (some dictionaries did not even list crasma at all).
Thanks everyone for your patience and the references.
Kathryn Cassidy
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Надіслано: 12 серпня 2009 р. 19:41
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Тема: Re: [SEELANGS] НА: crâşm� �

The Dictionarul limbii romane moderne gives the two, crâşmă and cârciumă, and all their derivatives as equivalent, preferring the latter as the literary form and implying that the former is a dialectal variant. I would suspect, looking at the Slavic cognates, that crâşmă would occur where the Bulgarians and Romanians meet along the Danube and in the Delta area.

jim a.


On Wed, 12 Aug 2009, Kathryn Cassidy wrote:

> Thank you for your replies. I still have a bit of a query relating to the Romanian word crâşmă though. Whilst I understand that cârciumă is related, in some regions, crâşmă is used and not cârciumă. There are then various words derived from this and the village bar owner and his wife for example often be known as crâşmăr and crâşmăriţă. I'm trying to understand if this is just a regional derivation from cârciumă or whether the word has a different root entirely. All the etymological resources I have for Romanian are clear on the root for cârciumă but not crâşmă. Any further suggestions would be appreciated!
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> Kathryn Cassidy
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> Someone asked about the "tavern" word Rus. корчма, Bulg. кръчма, Rom. cârciumă, and I deleted it. Yes, these are all related but their source is cloudy, some say they are related to the Cz krkati 'drink' , others to the German Krug 'stein'. In all these languages it is a pleasant place to be on a hot summer's day. Cheers!
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