НА: crâşmă

[Svetlana Malykhina]

Dear Kathryn,
 
Perhaps I am late sending this, but what I am reading now is a book (e-book, to be precise) "Chroniki iznanochnogo vremeni" by Andrei Chernov (St Petersburg 2006), and it seems that the author has an interest in the etymology of the words which are related to those you are interested in. He focuses on the toponyms 'Korchev'>'Kerch'>'Korcheva' etc. Check out the link
http://www.chernov-trezin.narod.ru/ZS_2.htm
I guess that you might not be up to reading a long book in Russian, but if you scroll down to the chapter 'Prishelets iz proshlogo' you will find the very interesting discussion of the topic of your interest in the first paragraph. 
Chernov  menthioned Musin-Pushkin's publication of 1794 about the inscription on a stone of Tmutarakan. The text contains the explanation of toponym Kerch, and Chernov is referring to Vasmer who linked this toponym to the slavic verb 'korchit', 'korchevat'. But then Chernov maintains that 'Kerch' is derived from 'karscha' (market place) -- a word of turkic origin. According to Chernov, Karsha is an alternate name of the ancient city Pantikapei (=Bosphor). The name became popular among Slavs at the time when Khazars had influence over the territory and the city in VII century. 
Apparently in East Slavic language in XII century 'Karsha' turned into 'Kerch'.
 
All of these could be misleading as some scholars consider the stone a XVIII century forgery, but the book itself is fascinating. 
 
Hope this helps,
Svitlana Malykhina
--- On Wed, 12/8/09, Kathryn Cassidy <KLC523 at BHAM.AC.UK> wrote:


From: Kathryn Cassidy <KLC523 at BHAM.AC.UK>
Subject: [SEELANGS] НА: crâşmă
To: SEELANGS at bama.ua.edu
Date: Wednesday, 12 August, 2009, 12:00 PM


Thank you for your replies. I still have a bit of a query relating to the Romanian word crâşmă though. Whilst I understand that cârciumă is related, in some regions, crâşmă is used and not cârciumă. There are then various words derived from this and the village bar owner and his wife for example often be known as crâşmăr and crâşmăriţă. I'm trying to understand if this is just a regional derivation from cârciumă or whether the word has a different root entirely. All the etymological resources I have for Romanian are clear on the root for cârciumă but not crâşmă. Any further suggestions would be appreciated!

Kathryn Cassidy
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Someone asked about the "tavern" word Rus. корчма, Bulg. кръчма, Rom. cârciumă, and I deleted it. Yes, these are all related but their source is cloudy, some say they are related to the Cz krkati 'drink' , others to the German Krug 'stein'. In all these languages it is a pleasant place to be on a hot summer's day. Cheers!
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